# creepy prophecy of wtc? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 12, 2001, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054 "2001-09-12T11:31:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jb\_farley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/1 "2001-09-12T11:31:42Z")
i’m not one for prophecy, or psi, or anything supernatural. and it could very well be that this fellow is involved in the conspiracy, somehow. or, it could all be a coincidence. sorry for the lack of antecedents in that paragraph. [here](http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=54ab4d241c34e0cc&seekm=3b8fd177%40monitor.lanset.com&scoring=d). that’s a link to a sequel to a very unsettling google message board post. the original doesn’t seem to be linked up anymore (the link I copied last night, and went to the original). basically, this fellow “Xinoehpoel” (xenophile, i’m guessing?) posted on 8/31 that something bad was going to happen the next day. come 9/1, nothing happened. he was called on it. wasn’t until the fourth that he really replied, and said “Wait one week, then you’ll see” or words to that effect. it was when i noticed that (a week before) that I read the subject line. since 8/31, the subject line was “911” or “re:911”. i don’t know where else to put this. it’s not mundane, but not really up for debate. and I have no general question (lots of specific ones, but only this Xinoehpoel fella could answer them). what do you all think? i’m leaning toward coincidence, but shit. the fuck?!? I’ll see if i can’t get the original up somehow. jb p.s.- hope the ny dopers are as well as they can be, in light of the horrific circumstances. my heart goes out to you all. ---
**Author:** ![jb\_farley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/2 "2001-09-12T11:42:06Z")
_Here’s a straight-text version of the original page- I can email the original document to anybody who wants it._ Message 1 in thread From: Xinoehpoel (tesnal@psl.moc) Subject: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-08-31 11:03:37 PST Something is going to happen tomorrow. This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup. I hate this newsgroup, and everyone on it sucks. REPENT! You are all evil liars! Do not be so evil, and be holy. You are going to get me killed because of the truth of my mouth. I am not telling you what is going to happen until it does, because an EVIL and adulterous generation seeks for a sign. Post a follow-up to this message Message 2 in thread From: Thomas S. McDonald ([tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-01 20:44:01 PST “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message [news:3b8fd177@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b8fd177@monitor.lanset.com)… \> Something is going to happen tomorrow. This is a witness against everyone on \> this newsgroup. I hate this newsgroup, and everyone on it sucks. REPENT! You \> are all evil liars! Do not be so evil, and be holy. You are going to get me \> killed because of the truth of my mouth. I am not telling you what is going \> to happen until it does, because an EVIL and adulterous generation seeks for \> a sign. Dear Xin, ``` Well, your tomorrow was yesterday. Will you tell us now ``` what the thing was that happened? Peace, Tom McDonald Post a follow-up to this message Message 3 in thread From: Xinoehpoel (tesnal@psl.moc) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-02 07:11:16 PST “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message [news:PNhk7.441$k7.6464@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:PNhk7.441%24k7.6464@reggie.win.bright.net)… \> \> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \> [news:3b8fd177@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b8fd177@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \> Something is going to happen tomorrow. This is a witness against everyone on \> \> this newsgroup. I hate this newsgroup, and everyone on it sucks. REPENT! You \> \> are all evil liars! Do not be so evil, and be holy. You are going to get me \> \> killed because of the truth of my mouth. I am not telling you what is going \> \> to happen until it does, because an EVIL and adulterous generation seeks for \> \> a sign. \> \> Dear Xin, \> \> Well, your tomorrow was yesterday. Will you tell us now \> what the thing was that happened? \> \> Peace, \> Tom McDonald \> Post a follow-up to this message Message 4 in thread From: Thomas S. McDonald ([tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-02 18:14:02 PST “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message [news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \> “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” That’s it? “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.”? That’s your big friggin’ deal? You underdid yourself this time, Xin. Usually I can at least rely on you for some interesting reading. This sucks. Tom Post a follow-up to this message Message 5 in thread From: Xinoehpoel (tesnal@psl.moc) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-04 09:41:41 PST Since when do I post prophecies, other than end of the world cataclysmic ones? Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message [news:EoAk7.450$k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:EoAk7.450%24k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net)… \> \> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \> [news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \> \> \> “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” \> \> That’s it? “This is a witness against everyone on this \> newsgroup.”? That’s your big friggin’ deal? You underdid \> yourself this time, Xin. Usually I can at least rely on you \> for some interesting reading. This sucks. \> \> Tom \> Post a follow-up to this message Message 6 in thread From: Thomas S. McDonald ([tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-04 10:35:14 PST “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message [news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \> Since when do I post prophecies, other than end of the world cataclysmic \> ones? \> \> \> Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message \> [news:EoAk7.450$k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:EoAk7.450%24k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net)… \> \> \> \> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \> \> [news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \> \> \> \> \> “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” \> \> \> \> That’s it? “This is a witness against everyone on this \> \> newsgroup.”? That’s your big friggin’ deal? You underdid \> \> yourself this time, Xin. Usually I can at least rely on you \> \> for some interesting reading. This sucks. \> \> \> \> Tom Dear Xin, ``` The first post in this thread was from you, saying that ``` something was going to happen on August 31, and that you would tell us what that thing was after it happened, presumably on September 1. I was only noticing that you hadn’t followed through on what you said you’d do, and instead had only written, “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” ``` Now you write, "Since when do I post prophecies, other ``` than end of the world ones?" Are you now saying that you are taking back your promise to tell us the thing that you said was going to happen on August 31? Or are you saying that the thing that happened August 31 was a witness against everyone in this newsgroup, with no more specification than that? ``` Just looking for some consistency and followthrough from ``` you. I am interested in what happened on August 31 that fulfilled your premonition of August 30. Or has it not happened yet, and you are going to tell us after it does, whatever the date? Peace, Tom McDonald Post a follow-up to this message Message 7 in thread From: Xinoehpoel (tesnal@psl.moc) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-04 12:40:28 PST Wait 7 days, and then maybe I’ll answer this post. You see, I am going away in seven days, and you will not hear from me again. X Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message [news:Sg8l7.476$k7.7210@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:Sg8l7.476%24k7.7210@reggie.win.bright.net)… \> \> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \> [news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \> \> \> Since when do I post prophecies, other than end of the world cataclysmic \> \> ones? \> \> \> \> \> \> Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message \> \> [news:EoAk7.450$k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:EoAk7.450%24k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net)… \> \> \> \> \> \> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \> \> \> [news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \> \> \> \> \> \> \> “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” \> \> \> \> \> \> That’s it? “This is a witness against everyone on this \> \> \> newsgroup.”? That’s your big friggin’ deal? You underdid \> \> \> yourself this time, Xin. Usually I can at least rely on you \> \> \> for some interesting reading. This sucks. \> \> \> \> \> \> Tom \> \> Dear Xin, \> \> The first post in this thread was from you, saying that \> something was going to happen on August 31, and that you \> would tell us what that thing was after it happened, \> presumably on September 1. I was only noticing that you \> hadn’t followed through on what you said you’d do, and \> instead had only written, “This is a witness against \> everyone on this newsgroup.” \> \> Now you write, “Since when do I post prophecies, other \> than end of the world ones?” Are you now saying that you \> are taking back your promise to tell us the thing that you \> said was going to happen on August 31? Or are you saying \> that the thing that happened August 31 was a witness against \> everyone in this newsgroup, with no more specification than \> that? \> \> Just looking for some consistency and followthrough from \> you. I am interested in what happened on August 31 that \> fulfilled your premonition of August 30. Or has it not \> happened yet, and you are going to tell us after it does, \> whatever the date? \> \> Peace, \> Tom McDonald \> Post a follow-up to this message Message 8 in thread From: Dee (.@coeeaoeeaeeco) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-04 16:52:19 PST Xinoehpoel wrote in message \<[3b950436@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com)\>… \> \>Since when do I post prophecies, other than end of the world cataclysmic \>ones? Then it didn’t happen. … \>Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message \>[news:EoAk7.450$k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:EoAk7.450%24k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net)… \>\> \>\> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \>\> [news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com)… \>\> \> \>\> \> “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” \>\> \>\> That’s it? “This is a witness against everyone on this \>\> newsgroup.”? That’s your big friggin’ deal? You underdid \>\> yourself this time, Xin. Usually I can at least rely on you \>\> for some interesting reading. This sucks. \>\> \>\> Tom \>\> \> \> \> Post a follow-up to this message Message 9 in thread From: Dee (.@coeeaoeeaeeco) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-04 16:52:21 PST Xinoehpoel wrote in message \<[3b952e20@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:3b952e20@monitor.lanset.com)\>… \>Wait 7 days, and then maybe I’ll answer this post. You see, I am going away \>in seven days, and you will not hear from me again. \> \>X Out on bail or what? Accept my challenge and go away with some pride in your stupidity, fakir. … \>Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message \>[news:Sg8l7.476$k7.7210@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:Sg8l7.476%24k7.7210@reggie.win.bright.net)… \>\> \>\> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \>\> [news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com)… \>\> \> \>\> \> Since when do I post prophecies, other than end of the world cataclysmic \>\> \> ones? \>\> \> \>\> \> \>\> \> Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message \>\> \> [news:EoAk7.450$k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:EoAk7.450%24k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net)… \>\> \> \> \>\> \> \> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \>\> \> \> [news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com)… \>\> \> \> \> \>\> \> \> \> “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” \>\> \> \> \>\> \> \> That’s it? “This is a witness against everyone on this \>\> \> \> newsgroup.”? That’s your big friggin’ deal? You underdid \>\> \> \> yourself this time, Xin. Usually I can at least rely on you \>\> \> \> for some interesting reading. This sucks. \>\> \> \> \>\> \> \> Tom \>\> \>\> Dear Xin, \>\> \>\> The first post in this thread was from you, saying that \>\> something was going to happen on August 31, and that you \>\> would tell us what that thing was after it happened, \>\> presumably on September 1. I was only noticing that you \>\> hadn’t followed through on what you said you’d do, and \>\> instead had only written, "This is a witness against Read the rest of this message… (24 more lines) Post a follow-up to this message Message 10 in thread From: Xinoehpoel (tesnal@psl.moc) Subject: Re: 911 Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus View this article only Date: 2001-09-06 23:12:21 PST What? No, I am just going away, that’s all. What challenge? Ok, I’ll be proud if you want me to. X Dee \<.@coeeaoeeaeeco\> wrote in message [news:mPdl7.8693$IP6.685416@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net](mailto:news:mPdl7.8693%24IP6.685416@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net)… \> \> Xinoehpoel wrote in message \<[3b952e20@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:3b952e20@monitor.lanset.com)\>… \> \>Wait 7 days, and then maybe I’ll answer this post. You see, I am going away \> \>in seven days, and you will not hear from me again. \> \> \> \>X \> \> Out on bail or what? Accept my challenge and go away with some pride in your \> stupidity, fakir. \> \> … \> \> \>Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message \> \>[news:Sg8l7.476$k7.7210@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:Sg8l7.476%24k7.7210@reggie.win.bright.net)… \> \>\> \> \>\> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \> \>\> [news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b950436@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \>\> \> \> \>\> \> Since when do I post prophecies, other than end of the world cataclysmic \> \>\> \> ones? \> \>\> \> \> \>\> \> \> \>\> \> Thomas S. McDonald \<[tsmac@wwt.net](mailto:tsmac@wwt.net)\> wrote in message \> \>\> \> [news:EoAk7.450$k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net](mailto:news:EoAk7.450%24k7.6737@reggie.win.bright.net)… \> \>\> \> \> \> \>\> \> \> “Xinoehpoel” \ wrote in message \> \>\> \> \> [news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com](mailto:news:3b923e02@monitor.lanset.com)… \> \>\> \> \> \> \> \>\> \> \> \> “This is a witness against everyone on this newsgroup.” \> \>\> \> \> \> \>\> \> \> That’s it? “This is a witness against everyone on this \> \>\> \> \> newsgroup.”? That’s your big friggin’ deal? You underdid \> \>\> \> \> yourself this time, Xin. Usually I can at least rely on you \> \>\> \> \> for some interesting reading. This sucks. \> \>\> \> \> \> \>\> \> \> Tom ---
**Author:** ![lolagranola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@lolagranola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lolagranola)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/3 "2001-09-12T13:50:50Z")
That is just… Sorry, I don’t know what to say. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![wayward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a87d85/32.png) [@wayward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wayward)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/4 "2001-09-12T17:16:12Z")
That’s pretty damn freaky. Maybe it needs to be properly investigated. I’d submit it to the FBI or something. That sounds a bit paranoid but… well, you never kn ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/5 "2001-09-12T17:28:01Z")
It’s also being talked about [url=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86631](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86631)”] in the Pit[/url ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/6 "2001-09-12T17:30:37Z")
\ Sorry [in the Pit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86631) ---
**Author:** ![wayward](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a87d85/32.png) [@wayward](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wayward)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/7 "2001-09-12T17:42:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Funky McDuck \* > \*\*That’s pretty damn freaky. Maybe it needs to be properly investigated. I’d submit it to the FBI or something. > That sounds a bit paranoid but… well, you never kn \*\* Never _know_. Never _know_. I’m sured I typed those last two letters. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/8 "2001-09-12T20:26:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jb\_farley \* > \*\* basically, this fellow “Xinoehpoel” (xenophile, i’m guessing?) \*\* I read somewhre that “Xinoehpoel” is Leo Pheonix backwards (and apparently misspelled) Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/9 "2001-09-12T20:34:28Z")
I thought (I hope) that there was speculation that his was a sick hoax - posted after the fact - with pre-dated entries. Anybody have any clues? Or is there anybody who frequents usenet who might have seen this before yesterday? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/10 "2001-09-12T20:39:52Z")
Not a prophecy-maybe even a threat? ---
**Author:** ![SuperTer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@SuperTer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperTer)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/11 "2001-09-12T21:01:38Z")
I am not familiar with the posts in question, but I do have a translation of Nostradamus prophecies (by Erika Cheetham) in front of me, here are a few short ones of interest: “The gods will make it seem to mankind that they are the authors of a great war. Before the sky was seen to be free of weapons and rockets; the greatest damage will be afflicted to the left side.” The translator’s interpretation of “left side” means to the left of the map, or America. Here’s more: " With the knives will come cries, tears and weeping. Seeming to flee, they will make a final assault around the parks. They will set up high platforms, the living pushed back and murdered instantly." The translator’s response to this quatrain was “A regime that throws people to their death from high platforms?” Keep in mind there are parks very close to WTC and the Pentagon, that the planes at first travelled in different directions, and of course the use of knives. I’m sure there are more but I haven’t had a chance to read them all yet. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/12 "2001-09-12T21:10:56Z")
:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Ross](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ross)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/13 "2001-09-12T21:11:58Z")
Reminds me of something that happened when I was at school. I was the sort of kid who got left out a lot, so I’d pretend to be dying or psychic or anythig just to get attention. I don’t defend it but I was just a little kid. Anyway one day I decided to do a cold reading: basically, I announced that I felt like something bad was going to happen that day, figuring that bad stuff happened all the time so I could claim to have foreseen anything from the evening news. That was the day Challenger exploded. Shook me badly enough to mean I dropped the pretending immediately. OF COURSE I don’t claim that God allowed me to foresee Challenger. But He allowed my stupid lying to take place at a very significant time, just to stop me doing it again. I don’t mean to suggest that’s what this guy did. Genuine prophecy is all over the place today, although this is more a “foretelling” thing. But there are always many sides to any story. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/14 "2001-09-12T21:13:53Z")
I telephoned the FBI and gave them the URL to this thread. Personally I think “Leo Phoenix @ [Palestn.com](http://Palestn.com)” is a crackpot. But you never know. It’s just suspicious enough to make me take action. Is it a hoax? Did someone hack the system and plant the dates? Is this some guy who just took a shot in the dark and wound up with the right date? By calling the FBI did I make myself the butt of a nasty joke? I don’t know. In any case, on the off-chance that it might lead to something, the FBI has been notified. (So watch what you say! 😉 ) ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2001, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/15 "2001-09-12T23:49:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \* > \*\*I thought (I hope) that there was speculation that his was a sick hoax - posted after the fact - with pre-dated entries. > > Anybody have any clues? Or is there anybody who frequents usenet who might have seen this before yesterday? \*\* Jack, I got all headers in several newservers (I’ve got one from my ISP and a commercial one) and the post is identical on all of 'em and they all match the quoted text. No one’s edited the dates or text of the quoted stuff in **JBFarley’s** post. His stuff jibes with what I get from several sources. As far as I know, it’d be impossible to fake the thread in question (there are too many responses from too many ISPs to have faked). Fenris ---
**Author:** ![HomeSlice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9d8465/32.png) [@HomeSlice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HomeSlice)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/16 "2001-09-13T00:16:01Z")
Here is the original thread… [http://people.clemson.edu/~jtjusti/google.html](http://people.clemson.edu/~jtjusti/google.html) The FBI were notified yesterday about this man. ---
**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/17 "2001-09-13T00:17:50Z")
I just can’t shake my skepticism that a person involved with the attacks would have posted warnings to alt.prophecies.nostradamus. The whole idea seems silly to me. ---
**Author:** ![Searching\_For\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Searching\_For\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Searching_For_Truth)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/18 "2001-09-13T00:59:52Z")
Me neither. Here’s what I’ve heard about that Nostradamus deal… My friend said, and I quote…"You know that people have been making up Nostradamus quotes for the past few decades, right? Do some research into any Nostradamus quote you find. It is NOT by Nostradamus. It was by a guy who wrote an essay regarding his prophs, named Nathan-something. Nathan wrote that exact “quatrain” to prove the point that Nostradamus was so general that you can twist his prophs to fit anything. " ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/19 "2001-09-13T01:18:00Z")
The thing is, wacko people are always saying “watch out, watch out! Bad things are afoot! repent! The end is nigh!” “But what is going to happen?” we cry. And they say “You’ll know it when you see it” 99% of the time nothing does happen, and it gets conveniently forgotten. But when something, for a change, actually does happen they say “see? Told ya so! Repent!!” ---
**Author:** ![peewee\_RotA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@peewee\_RotA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peewee_RotA)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054/20 "2001-09-13T02:00:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SuperTer \* > \*\*I am not familiar with the posts in question, but I do have a translation of Nostradamus prophecies (by Erika Cheetham) in front of me, here are a few short ones of interest: > > “The gods will make it seem to mankind that they are the authors of a great war. Before the sky was seen to be free of weapons and rockets; the greatest damage will be afflicted to the left side.” > > The translator’s interpretation of “left side” means to the left of the map, or America. Here’s more: > > " With the knives will come cries, tears and weeping. Seeming to flee, they will make a final assault around the parks. They will set up high platforms, the living pushed back and murdered instantly." > > The translator’s response to this quatrain was “A regime that throws people to their death from high platforms?” Keep in mind there are parks very close to WTC and the Pentagon, that the planes at first travelled in different directions, and of course the use of knives. > > I’m sure there are more but I haven’t had a chance to read them all yet. \*\* Matthew 27:3-5 [http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/computing/beatles.htmlMatt](http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/computing/beatles.htmlMatt) 27:3-5 3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. (KJV) 3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. [http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/computing/beatles.htmlMatt](http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/computing/beatles.htmlMatt) 27:3-5 3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. (KJV) 3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. (KJV) Matt 20:5 5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. (KJV) Any 2 things can be put together to make what is not true! rov 27:3 3 Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both. (NIV) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/creepy-prophecy-of-wtc/81054.md?page=2)