# Crepid ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 25, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008 "2004-05-25T16:20:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Thirsty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@Thirsty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thirsty)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/1 "2004-05-25T16:20:50Z")

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I came across this word:

ultracrepidarian: (n., adj.) a person who gives opinions beyond his scope of knowledge.

It is in reference to False Authority Syndrome on the web site [www.vmyths.com](http://www.vmyths.com).

I get ultra and arian, it’s the crepid part that I am having problems with. English is not one of my strong points, so out comes the dictionary. The funny thing is crepid is not in the dictionary, or any on-line dictionary.

I got a Latin hit and tried a latin-english dictionary but the meaning, foundation could be knowledge.

I also got a hit on a couple of shoe makers in Rome a while back.

I thought crepid meant weak, old, grungy.

What does crepid mean?

Thirsty (as in for knowledge)

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/2 "2004-05-25T16:34:42Z")

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> I thought crepid meant weak, old, grungy.

That would be _decrepit_.

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> Middle English, from Old French, from Latin _decrepitus_, worn out, feeble : _de-_, _de- + crepitus_ past participle of _crepare_, to burst, crack.
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> Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition, 1992.

However, see:  
[_crepido_](http://www.archaeology-wordsmith.com/cgi-bin/lookup.cgi?category=&where=headword&terms=crepido)

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> DEFINITION: In Roman antiquity, a kind of base or stand upon which another object rests, and by analogy the embankment of a quay, a dike, or jetty. Also used for the raised causeway for foot passengers at the side of a road or street (as in Pompeii) or for the platforms or stages around a great altar.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/3 "2004-05-25T16:39:18Z")

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Whoops. The implication being that _crepido_ meaning base, or footing, an _ultracrepidarian_ would be one who is expounding outside the knowledge in which he has a strong footing.

Maybe. Maybe not.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/4 "2004-05-25T17:48:57Z")

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Just as the mythical weaver Arachne was transformed into a spider and thus had and entire order of arthropds named after her, So to did the Roman Crepidarios have his name transformed into a byword of incompetence due to his astoundingly bad counsel.

My ancient history is a little rusty, but Crepidarios is[recorded](http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/gellius13.html) to have been a very poor advisor to several caesars.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/5 "2004-05-25T18:14:56Z")

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I am shameless.

Herein lies [the real answer.](http://www.quinion.com/words/weirdwords/ww-ult1.htm)

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/6 "2004-05-25T18:49:23Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> I am shameless.

This must be the funniest thing I’ve read all week.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/7 "2004-05-25T19:24:46Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> This must be the funniest thing I’ve read all week.

🙂 … I think :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Backwater_Under_Duck)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/8 "2004-05-25T23:33:12Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> Just as the mythical weaver Arachne was transformed into a spider and thus had and entire order of arthropds named after her, So to did the Roman Crepidarios have his name transformed into a byword of incompetence due to his astoundingly bad counsel.
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> My ancient history is a little rusty, but Crepidarios is[recorded](http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/gellius13.html) to have been a very poor advisor to several caesars.

His real name was Cliffus Clavinus 😉

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**Author:** ![Thirsty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dbc845/32.png) [@Thirsty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thirsty)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crepid/247008/9 "2004-05-26T20:07:03Z")

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was not what I thought it was, providing for the confusion. Thanks. 🙂
