Seabees call them boats just to annoy the squids. A standard joke for a Bee was to tell people that he served on an LGT (Large Green Truck).
That’s some mighty fine PowerPoint Rangerin’ there, Bear!
[sub]Please don’t kill me. I’ve done my Staff time. I know what you’re going through and I mean it in brotherly jest![/sub] ![]()
What are those ‘ports’ labelled “EEBD” to the right of the technician’s facemask and pressure reservoir? Better view here. Is that some sort of “stuff port” where jam in your small pocket stuff for safe keeping?
Tripler
Yeah, I’ve done my time.
Storage for Emergency Escape Breathing Device. They use to be a much clunkier setup. Another reason why I didn’t like the middle bunks.
Dug some old waste tshirts out of one of mrAru’s’ seabags, still smelled of sub funk … sigh
Is it me or are they now enlisting 12 year olds? I swear they barely look old enough to be out after 2100. Not too sure of anything other than I am glad they got rid of blueberry …
You know you’re getting old when you notice how young the cops are.
I’ll echo what Michael said; the attention paid to things like drill and quarter cleanliness is not always the same. Soldiers and sailors on training courses, like boot camp but also a lot of other courses, are often tightly disciplined. Experienced, professional soldiers and sailors just going their jobs are generally left alone if there’s no reason to make a fuss. If that warship is crewed by experienced sailors on an actual deployment, no one is going to give them shit for the quarters being lived in unless there’s an issue.
I read a saying: “No combat-ready unit ever passed inspection; no inspection-ready unit ever passed combat”
Aside from bootcamp, what courses are known for tight discipline? Are there courses where discipline is even tighter than bootcamp?
First off, note that basic training (aka boot camp) varies in intensity between the various branches, with U.S. Marine Corps Recruit Training likely being the most intense.
Regardless, there are several military courses where discipline is even tighter than any boot camp. Off the top of my head, some examples include:
[ul][li]United States Marine Corps Officer Candidates School (OCS)[/li][li]Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training[/li][li]SEAL Qualification Training (SQT)[/li][/ul]
The key difference between boot camp and the examples I’ve listed is that, generally speaking, the instructors want everyone to successfully complete boot camp. That is generally not the case for these other courses, in which the instructors are actively trying to screen people out.
In BUD/S, this is taken a ludicrous extreme, in which a ship’s bell is carried along at all times with students actively being encouraged to ring the bell and quit the course.
Why did they stop using hammocks? I’ve never even been on any kind of ship, so pardon my ignorance, but I always thought hammocks would be ideal accommodations. They swing with the motion of the ship and can be stowed out of the way during working hours, saving precious space when you’re on duty.
Actually dedicated triple high bunks are pretty efficient of space and give a little privacy at least. The space for hammocks wouldn’t be off much use anyway unless you had people sleeping in shops & offices. Sailors still need locker space and the most modern berthing seem to build a lot of that into the racks. (Bunks).
I’d die of claustrophobia.
Well if you were in Engineering, they would work you so hard, you could sleep anywhere. I actually fell asleep on my feet a few times when I was on the Ranger.
Funny thing is carriers like the Ranger were where they sent Submariners that could take the enclosed space anymore. I don’t remember the few of them I met complaining about the bunks. Maybe it was the idea of all that water overhead that caused them the problems instead.
Also SERE training.
USMC Scout/Sniper course is pretty hard core when it comes to discipline, too. I know a guy who got washed out on the next to last day, because he…fell asleep when he wasn’t supposed to. After being awake for who knows how long.
Those steps are amazing. To get into my top bunk I had to reach up, grab a couple of ventilation pipes, and then swing my feet up into the rack.
Even on a submarine I was able to go topside a couple of times during swim calls and walk around.
“Steel beach”!
In the Royal Navy they stopped sometime in the 1950’s, HMS Belfast is a museum ship on the Thames (and a great site to visit) and they show the hammocks still slung as they were in 1939 I believe.