# Cricket - Who is Lou Vincent's match fixing "hero"?

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**Created:** [July 3, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cricket-who-is-lou-vincents-match-fixing-hero/692256 "2014-07-03T06:29:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cricket-who-is-lou-vincents-match-fixing-hero/692256/1 "2014-07-03T06:29:21Z")

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Lou Vincent is a New Zealand cricketer who has been banned for match fixing. He has stated in interviews that he got involved in fixing because of his “hero”

> **['I couldn't say no' - Vincent](https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/i-couldn-t-say-no-lou-vincent-757083)**
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> Lou Vincent talks about how bookies approach players, finding out his 'hero' was a fixer and whether a life ban is too soft a punishment for his misdeeds

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> He revealed on radio networks Newstalk ZB and Radio Sport how he was lured into fixing by his ‘hero’ during the ICL, and why he couldn’t turn down the offer.
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> “This guy… he’s my hero,” Vincent said. “Someone that almost took me under his wing, someone who was a dear friend, someone that when I was around, I was so empowered by his presence and his confidence, the aura of this legend that I had the honour of playing cricket with in my career, and now it is ‘Yes, sir’.”

Who is being referred to? It sounds like another cricketer, and if so, why isn’t he using the guy’s name? Shouldn’t we know about and prosecute whoever this person is?

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**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cricket-who-is-lou-vincents-match-fixing-hero/692256/2 "2014-07-03T07:06:54Z")

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The most obvious thing to do is look at who was on his team in the ICL and have a think about what he’s saying and thus who it is likely to be.

Vincent was on the Chandigarh Lions. The team was (per Wikipedia):

Chris Cairns (New Zealand) (C.)  
Andrew Hall (South Africa)  
Lou Vincent (New Zealand)  
Daryl Tuffey (New Zealand)  
Matthew Elliott (Australia)  
Karanveer Singh  
Sarabjeet Singh  
T.P. Singh  
Rajesh Sharma  
Ishan Malhotra  
Chetan Sharma Jr  
Manish Sharma  
Ravinder Singh  
Bipul Sharma  
Karanveer Singh  
Amit Uniyal  
Harpreet Singh  
Gaurav Gupta

The coach was Balwinder Sandhu.

I have a pretty good idea who Vincent is referring to from this lot, especially since you can discount all the Indian guys as not fitting the “legend” profile he’s put out in the public domain. However I am not a lawyer, but being British and knowing a little bit about our laws I’m not that certain it’s worth my actually pointing the finger. Still, I think anyone willing to do some light searching on some of these names will be able to work out who it’s likely to be.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cricket-who-is-lou-vincents-match-fixing-hero/692256/3 "2014-07-03T07:09:45Z")

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[Chris Cains](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/10939145/Lou-Vincent-match-fixing-apology-puts-Chris-Cairns-on-spot.html)

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cricket-who-is-lou-vincents-match-fixing-hero/692256/4 "2014-07-03T10:31:24Z")

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> [@bldysabba](#):
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> Lou Vincent is a New Zealand cricketer who has been banned for match fixing. He has stated in interviews that he got involved in fixing because of his “hero”  
> ['I couldn't say no' - Lou Vincent | ESPNcricinfo](http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/757083.html)  
> Who is being referred to? It sounds like another cricketer, and if so, why isn’t he using the guy’s name? Shouldn’t we know about and prosecute whoever this person is?

…he isn’t using the other person’s name because the other person is categorically denying it: and even though the person in question has admitted that he is the person in question (and he has been spoken to by the match fixing enquiry people) it is wiser for Lou Vincent to not outright name this other player lest he end up on the end of a law suit.

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cricket-who-is-lou-vincents-match-fixing-hero/692256/5 "2014-07-03T10:52:52Z")

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Here’s [a thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=645321&highlight=cairns)I started a couple of years ago about Cairns’ defamation suit against Lalit Modi.

Vincent doesn’t want to face the same legal troubles Modi had.

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**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cricket-who-is-lou-vincents-match-fixing-hero/692256/6 "2014-07-03T22:23:23Z")

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Thanks guys. It makes sense. I wonder if Lou Vincent was called on as a witness in Cairns’ lawsuit against Modi? Should have been I guess.
