# Criminally underrated records

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 28, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345 "2019-02-28T17:18:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/21 "2019-02-28T23:34:37Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> Here’s Harry performing it live at the BBC in 1973: [A Little Touch of Schmilsson in the Night](https://youtu.be/4H2922CVjV8)

That was great. Thanks so much!

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/22 "2019-02-28T23:36:41Z")

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Thomas Dolby moved away from his early sound when he moved to America. _Astronauts & Heretics_ starts with zydeco and jumps around genres but is always fascinating. “I Love You Goodbye” is a standout.

Speaking of soundtracks and obscure, Joe Jackson did a soundtrack album for the obscure movie _Mike’s Murder_. The music wasn’t used in the movie, but an lp was released. A killer side of uptempo pop songs - “Memphis” is his hardest rocker - and a b-side of atmospheric instrumentals.

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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/23 "2019-02-28T23:41:00Z")

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There is a big category of acts with hardcore cult following, and a couple of fairly successful singles that really _should_ be bigger:

Spiritualized, [Songs in A&E](https://music.avclub.com/spiritualized-songs-in-a-e-1798204356)(Ladies and Gentlemen We are Floating in Space got a lot of music-press plaudits, but I prefer the follow up album)  
Hold Steady, [Boys and Girls in America](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJNA553jpzY)  
Malcom Middleton, [Into The Woods](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1UMWvZ6MPY) (better than anything he did with Arab Strap IMO)

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/24 "2019-02-28T23:47:51Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> **We Are the Pipettes** by … The Pipettes. (Pronounced “pip-ettes” for you science lab folks.)
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> Retro girl group stuff with modern sensibilities. A bunch of bad timing things plus continuous turnover so this album was nearly “it” for the group.

Heh. I saw them in a concert in a bar here in Chicago about – shit, when was their heyday – ten years ago? Fun 60s-style girl pop!

My local favorite is [Bad Is Beautiful](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQQ7iW72RE&list=PLAE05FB8C442C6D71) by the Bad Examples. Great lyric-based story-telling pop from our perennial bar band (I hate to call them that, but that is the venue you will most likely see them.) I’m generally not one who cares too much about lyrics, but there’s a quality to Ralph Covert’s lyrics that I immediately identify with – sentiment without over-sentimentality – and great melodies. Plus a hell of a band backing him up. Probably the band I’ve seen the most live, although it’s been about a decade since I’ve seen them (and they do still play.)

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/25 "2019-02-28T23:53:19Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Harry Nilsson did an album of classic standards. He has a great voice for those kind of songs. I had the LP years ago. Never could find it in any other media. Now I can’t even remember the title. Alas.

Also did a great Randy Newman cover album. One stand out is [Cowboy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15dCBHGjx8I)

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/26 "2019-03-01T01:24:49Z")

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Jona Lewie, _On the Other Hand There’s a Fist_ (there are different versions of this album, you want the one with The Fairground Ride on it).

English guy who plays New Orleans-style boogie woogie piano; gets signed to Stiff Records and produces something suitably weird. After 40 years I still can’t figure out where he’s coming from, but I keep listening.

Since this one didn’t sell, he modified his approach and had a couple of Big in England\* singles, but it wasn’t the same. Too bad.

(\* Like saying “Number One in Delaware”, nothing against England, or Delaware, you may find this impressive but you aren’t required to.)

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**Author:** ![GESancMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gesancman/32/2923_2.png) [@GESancMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GESancMan)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/27 "2019-03-01T01:38:18Z")

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Tears for Fears, _Seeds of Love_.

It’s in my top ten greatest albums of all time. And this is coming from a hardcore prog rock fan.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/28 "2019-03-01T01:50:46Z")

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**The National** “Boxer”, 2007.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/29 "2019-03-01T02:05:38Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Thomas Dolby moved away from his early sound when he moved to America. _Astronauts & Heretics_ starts with zydeco and jumps around genres but is always fascinating. “I Love You Goodbye” is a standout.

That’s the one with Eddie Van Halen playing on it. Good album, but I prefer Aliens Ate My Buick because of the wistfully sinister [“Budapest By Blimp”.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjnwmMX9fsQ) Thomas Dolby is probably the definition of underrated.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/30 "2019-03-01T02:09:25Z")

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I’ll nominate Be Bop Deluxe’s 3rd album, _[Sunburst Finish](https://vintagerock.com/be-bop-deluxe-sunburst-finish-expanded-cd-review/)_.

Be Bop Deluxe fans, you know what I’m talking about. “Life in the Air Age” and “Ships in the Night” were sort of AOR FM hits back in the day, but the real jewel on the album is [Crying to the Sky](https://youtu.be/_m-U_0XYesE) with not one but two beautiful Hendrix-inspired solos.

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**Author:** ![diggerwam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@diggerwam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diggerwam)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/31 "2019-03-01T03:11:05Z")

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Gaslight Anthem. 59 sound. Serious Springsteen love.

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**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/32 "2019-03-01T03:21:55Z")

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I’ll nominate Chicago’s first album. Aside from Terry Kath’s miserable attempt to imitate Jimi Hendrix, it’s got a bunch of great songs.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/33 "2019-03-01T03:44:59Z")

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[Trip Shakespeare: _Lulu_](https://www.allmusic.com/album/lulu-mw0000265426)  
[The 77s: _Sticks and Stones_](https://www.allmusic.com/album/sticks-and-stones-mw0001880952)  
[Daniel Amos:_Darn Floor - Big Bite_](https://www.allmusic.com/album/darn-floor-big-bite-mw0000802551)

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/34 "2019-03-01T04:01:02Z")

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I really like “Late” on Trip Shakespeare’s Across the Universe

How about the over the top Gowan’s album “Strange Animal” featuring [Criminal Mind](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIjddye2JSA)

Also there’s any number of great Split Enz albums.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/35 "2019-03-01T04:11:31Z")

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> [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](#):
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> I’ll nominate Chicago’s first album. Aside from Terry Kath’s miserable attempt to imitate Jimi Hendrix, it’s got a bunch of great songs.

Speaking of which…here’s a lovely song from the end of [Electra Glide in Blue](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnoapEzac9w)

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/36 "2019-03-01T05:22:46Z")

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> [@diggerwam](#):
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> Gaslight Anthem. 59 sound. Serious Springsteen love.

Springsteen vs The Clash by way of The Replacements is a potent mix. And “Ain’t supposed to die on a Saturday night” is the best Springsteen line that he never wrote.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/37 "2019-03-01T05:35:37Z")

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My favorite “great album nobody else has ever heard of” album is “Fun” by the British power-pop band The Candy Skins. They had another album that was nowhere as good, and AFAIK this, “Wembley”, was their only official video, at least from “Fun”. It doesn’t do them justice. I found out about them because the album was in heavy rotation on my college’s radio station during the summer of 1993.

Here's another song, "Everybody Loves You", used as the soundtrack for a memorial video.
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FFj54luvIp4/hqdefault.jpg "everybody loves you - the candy skins") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFj54luvIp4)

Several years ago, I stumbled onto “Fountains of Light” by the late 1970s prog band Starcastle. Amazing, simply amazing. (A decade later, their drummer graduated from medical school.)

I don’t know why the video is an hour in length; the whole album is just under 40 minutes. And what a 40 minutes they are!

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mGuY3dMsKLQ/hqdefault.jpg "STARCASTLE FOUNTAINS OF LIGHT FULL ALBUM") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGuY3dMsKLQ)

That incident prompted this thread.

> **[Rediscovering obscure old songs from your youth](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=774837)**
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> Isn’t it fun when you do that? I’m thinking about that because several days ago, I stumbled onto this wonderful song that I used to hear late at night on the AOR station as a tween in the late 1970s; they would play what we now call “deep tracks”,...

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/38 "2019-03-01T05:46:41Z")

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Minutemen - Double Nickels On the Dime

Mission of Burma - Vs.

Hoodoo Gurus - Stoneage Romeos

Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians - Element of Light

Shovels and Rope - O’ Be Joyful

Siouxsie and the Banshees - Ju Ju

The Last Shadow Puppets - The Age of the Understatement

John Doe - The Westerner

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/39 "2019-03-01T06:06:37Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Huh, I’m not a huge Slayer fan and did not know this one. I’ll have to give it a listen.  
> …

Indeedy do! It’s a very rough and raw recording since they hadn’t hit anything big yet (and thus had no budget), but the talent is there.

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**Post date:** [March 1, 2019, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/40 "2019-03-01T06:23:03Z")

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Assuming you want obscure because they are simply unknown, allow me to offer 3 from the 1980s:

[Wire Train - …in a chamber](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXyCsse5lSE), an overlooked gem from 1984. I was lucky enough to see them open for Big Country at FAU. I still have the cassette I bought at Peaches the next day. I have two copies of the CD re-release that a guy arranged in the late 1990s, too. Fantastic dreamy psych pop, lots of chorus and echo and inscrutable lyrics here.

[Tar Babies - No Contest](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cQBkhwcjpk&list=PL213C7D2E67603C04) is an SST release from 1998. Jazzy, funky-as-fuck , tight-but-loose in a way that 99.999% of bands can only ever hope to be and rocking like there’s no dawn coming. The link is to 4 of the 8 tracks from this album; I guarantee the rest is worth listening to if you like those songs.

[Universal Congress Of - Prosperous & Qualified](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFGKTeS8Toc) is another 1998 release on SST (it was a good year, eh). More funky jazz, this time centered on the interplay between the Joe Baiza’s unique guitar sound & runs and saxman Steve Moss’s agile wailing. Punchy, low-down funky, dirty filthy jazz… this band is responsible for both of the two best concerts I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen thousands of concerts.

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