# Criminally underrated records

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 28, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345 "2019-02-28T17:18:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Post date:** [March 2, 2019, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/61 "2019-03-02T13:25:00Z")

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It’s unfortunate that among singer/songwriters Croce isn’t as well respected compared to Neil Young, James Taylor, or Carole King.

Probably because they are still alive and have decades more recordings.

Croce and Buddy Holly never got the chance to leave that many years work as a legacy.

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**Post date:** [March 2, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/62 "2019-03-02T14:57:38Z")

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> [@SykoSkotty](#):
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> 2. Motley Crue - [Motley Crue '94](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-EcVtBsQNQ) (The one they did without Vince Neil on lead vocals)
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> Musically speaking, their best record by a mile. The songs are gritty and heavy but still groovy. Loved this record even though it was a commercial flop.

Was that the one with John Corabi? I thought it was a decent album, but it wasn’t a Crue record. I mean that in the nicest possible way. It’s like how Van Halen III was a good album, but Gary Cherone didn’t make it a real Van Halen record.

Maybe I’m “no true Scotsman”-ing the artists above. Get off my lawn.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/63 "2019-03-04T00:14:52Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> My favorite Rush album, as an album, is 1990’s “Presto.”

Yes! a great return for Rush as a guitar-anchored band, after Geddy’s "interesting-but-this-isn’t-“RUSH” keyboard explorations on “Power Windows” and “Hold Your Fire”. Opening with “Show Don’t Tell” & “Chain Lightning”, Alex is back@the forefront; I especially loved “Anagram (For Mongo)” too! 🆒😃

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/64 "2019-03-04T01:12:23Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Is that one really considered underrated, though? I’ve always known that to be acknowledged as their masterpiece, at least in the circles I ran in (though I was more a fan of the following Check Your Head.) Just quickly checking [allmusic.com](http://allmusic.com) as a point of reference, it’s the only B-boys album that is both 5 stars by their assessment and user ratings.

I agree. In my circles, everyone has Paul’s boutique in their top five best albums of all time list.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/65 "2019-03-04T01:19:47Z")

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> [@cieskokid](#):
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> Yes! a great return for Rush as a guitar-anchored band, after Geddy’s "interesting-but-this-isn’t-“RUSH” keyboard explorations on “Power Windows” and “Hold Your Fire”. Opening with “Show Don’t Tell” & “Chain Lightning”, Alex is back@the forefront; I especially loved “Anagram (For Mongo)” too! 🆒😃

“Anagram (for Mongo)” is my favorite song on that album. Very creative lyrics and chord changes, too; chances are, out of all their songs (that I’ve heard) it is probably the hardest to play, and yet it sounds so simple.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MBfV5bDKorM/hqdefault.jpg "Rush-Anagram (Lyrics)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBfV5bDKorM)

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/66 "2019-03-04T02:05:43Z")

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Brakes brakes brakes. “Beatific Visions”. At least a half dozen instantly sing alongable pop nuggets.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/67 "2019-03-05T14:16:00Z")

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So many good and interesting ideas! Thanks to you all, I have a lot to listen to.  
I throw my hat into the ring with Carolyne Mas, her live album “Mas Hysteria” is great, the B-side has a fantastic song titled “Sittin In The Dark” that was quite popular in Berlin in the 80s but that no one seems to know today. Great crescendo: [Carolyne Mas Sittin in the dark - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_ydQHaU3cM) (you will notice that most of the comments are in German. Weird she made it there for a while but nowhere else it seems. A pity)

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/68 "2019-03-07T08:13:06Z")

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[quote=“nearwildheaven, post:65, topic:830345”]

“Anagram (for Mongo)” is my favorite song on that album. Very creative lyrics and chord changes, too; chances are, out of all their songs (that I’ve heard) it is probably the hardest to play, and yet it sounds so simple.

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That’s one of the greatest quirks about Rush - so many of their songs “sound” simple but always have some complex chords compliments of Alex. An even greater under-rated album of theirs was “Grace Under Pressure”; I think alot of even dedicated Rush fans [what other kind IS there?!] misunderstood it OR didn’t get the new musical territory they were exploring, especially on a song like “Kid Gloves”, my fave from GUP.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mbWGL_1mDQI/hqdefault.jpg "Rush - Kid Gloves 9-27-1984") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbWGL_1mDQI)

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**Post date:** [March 7, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/criminally-underrated-records/830345/69 "2019-03-07T17:47:29Z")

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Dunno how underrated it is…but its quite possible people here are oblivious to it, so Ill toss out Melanies [Album Candles in the Rain](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kxW0Oiop94)

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