# Crimson Glyph forbidden thread:

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 30, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861 "2009-04-30T16:57:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/221 "2009-06-08T18:19:41Z")

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So, why did I die the first night? Did I do something to give myself away? Dumb luck?

This must have been a great game to be a BH. grats guys.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/222 "2009-06-08T18:25:37Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> TF, I almost cried I was laughing so hard when you stole my fake PM. Not only that, you ASKED me for it just a few posts earlier.  
> As soon as you did that, we knew you were safe to NK because me and Mahaloth could claim you stole our PM since you asked for it.

Well, I had hoped to make you cry, just not quite that way. ;)I suppose I should have just written my own PM, but I wanted to see some other vanilla PMs for comparison. When Mahaloth posted one that was word for word the same as yours, I figured I would just tag along.

So was that why you killed me, or was **Telcontar** right in guessing you were afraid **AllWalker** would confirm me as non-BH?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/223 "2009-06-08T18:26:36Z")

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> [@Telcontar](#):
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> So, why did I die the first night? Did I do something to give myself away? Dumb luck?
> 
> This must have been a great game to be a BH. grats guys.

No.

Total luck.

I suggested you because you were very good in the last game and I felt that you would figure one of us out.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/224 "2009-06-08T18:29:08Z")

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Yeah, I had no idea **peekerslit** was on my side, I don’t have the cojones to go after a teammate that aggressively. It makes sense, I always thought that we were way underpowered, with only two members (one of whom, of course, was completely worthless…and then **Pinkies** didn’t contribute much, either).

The sinner boards may be up for the honor of most boring scumboards ever…a few posts of me asking “Hey, is anyone else out there?” **Pinkies** put in a brief appearance and then vanished.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/225 "2009-06-08T18:30:19Z")

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I hope Ped opens the Scum board for you guys.

It has been active the last two days, when no one else was chatting in the main game.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/226 "2009-06-08T18:32:24Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> So was that why you killed me, or was **Telcontar** right in guessing you were afraid **AllWalker** would confirm me as non-BH?

We killed you because we were afraid that the Sinners could be very close to hitting their win condition. Kill you and finding a pure townie meant that we controlled our own destiny and only had to get that last mislynch for the win.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/227 "2009-06-08T18:33:03Z")

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I have about 100 MORE posts in the scum board then in the public board.

TF, we killed you because you asked me to post my PM and then you copied it. Killing you should have confirmed me as VT and left Mahaloth with a question mark, which I think is where he was most of the game.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/228 "2009-06-08T18:34:03Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> We killed you because we were afraid that the Sinners could be very close to hitting their win condition. Kill you and finding a pure townie meant that we controlled our own destiny and only had to get that last mislynch for the win.

That too.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/229 "2009-06-08T18:35:05Z")

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Also, I have to admit, hitting power roles randomly for the first few nights was fun. I took great enjoyment watching everyone squirm and wonder how we were doing it, when it was just luck

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/230 "2009-06-08T18:35:24Z")

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Eh, not so much, I don’t think (about the Sinners being close to winning). Although I never did know how the Blackhearts fit in with my win condition; if you counted as Sinners, I guess **Meeko and Stickler were the last two puritans. I see that you, Rysto, ended the game as an ensinned blackheart, but Joey** and **Mahaloth** didn’t. Did their demonic status make them immune to sin?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/231 "2009-06-08T18:37:06Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> We killed you because we were afraid that the Sinners could be very close to hitting their win condition. Kill you and finding a pure townie meant that we controlled our own destiny and only had to get that last mislynch for the win.

Exactly.

> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Eh, not so much, I don’t think (about the Sinners being close to winning). Although I never did know how the Blackhearts fit in with my win condition; if you counted as Sinners, I guess **Meeko and Stickler were the last two puritans. I see that you, Rysto, ended the game as an ensinned blackheart, but Joey** and **Mahaloth** didn’t. Did their demonic status make them immune to sin?

Joey and Rysto began ensinned, while I began pure. If I was ensinned, I could not change my win condition.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/232 "2009-06-08T18:37:40Z")

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I think that we counted as Sinners, but Mahaloth had to be ensinned. You’d have to ask ped about that.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/233 "2009-06-08T18:39:42Z")

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Another thing, I have to give credit where credit is due, and I’ll say this here since I said it several times in the scum board, hell I mentioned it in the PUBLIC board also. Meeko really REALLY helped us. All his non-sense bullshit he kept spewing allowed us to keep quiet and got town so freakin confused that they weren’t even looking at us. Why a confirmed townie would talk in code, I don’t know.  
On the up side, Meeko, as a townie, your crap is what kept you safe from the NK and your mason status kept you safe from the lynch.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/234 "2009-06-08T18:43:06Z")

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By the way, Chronos. Did you know that no Blackhearts had voted for other Blackhearts Days 1-3, and that one had done so Day 4? We assumed that you got that information as part of your Role. If you did have that information you really, really should have claimed Night 4. That information could have turned the game around for the Town.

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**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/235 "2009-06-08T18:51:01Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> No.
> 
> Total luck.
> 
> I suggested you because you were very good in the last game and I felt that you would figure one of us out.

I’m flattered. Also dead. Funny how often those go together :).

> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Yeah, I had no idea **peekerslit** was on my side, I don’t have the cojones to go after a teammate that aggressively. It makes sense, I always thought that we were way underpowered, with only two members (one of whom, of course, was completely worthless…and then **Pinkies** didn’t contribute much, either).
> 
> The sinner boards may be up for the honor of most boring scumboards ever…a few posts of me asking “Hey, is anyone else out there?” **Pinkies** put in a brief appearance and then vanished.

The sinners could have been awesome…under slightly different circumstances. If you’d both lived until near endgame things would have been fascinating; I was gaming out scenarios where some truly odd stuff happens.

Oh, so can you all post your real role PMs?  
Mine was:  
You are Reverend Wilson. As a holy man, you can protect people from evil. You can also purge them of sin.

Powers:

1. Each night, you may visit someone. That person will be wholly unaffected by any evil forces that night. That person will also be purged of the seed of sin, if he had it.
2. You are so pure that you cannot be infected with the seed of sin.
3. If you are ostracized, you can do one more protect that night.

You are Town.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/236 "2009-06-08T18:53:28Z")

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I already posted my role PM. 😉

[QUOTE=pedescribe]  
You are Chillingworth, a Blackheart. As an Indian-loving herbologist, you are obviously an evil demon trying to kill everyone. This place is as good as any. However, you are also a doctor. You can protect people, or kill them!

Powers:

1. You are a Blackheart. You can communicate with the other Blackhearts here: [The Blackhearts | Secret Borde](http://notsogenericscum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=paintitblack)  
using the account:  
username:  
password:
2. Each night, one of you can go out and kill.
3. Each night, if you aren’t doing the kill, you can protect someone. The person will wake up with ‘a slightly healed feeling’.  
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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/237 "2009-06-08T18:54:47Z")

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Role PM

> [@](#):
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> You are Mistress Hibbins, a Blackheart. As a Satinist, you are naturally an evil demon bent on killing mankind. You figure this village is as good a place to start as any. You can use your satanic rituals to kill, or to search a target’s heart and mind.
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> Powers:
> 
> 1. You are a Blackheart. You can communicate with the other Blackhearts here: [Home | Secret Borde](http://notsogenericscum.proboards.com/index.cgi)  
> using the account:  
> username:  
> password:
> 2. Each night, one of you can go out and kill.
> 3. Each night, if you are not doing the kill, you can investigate someone and see if they are pure or sinful.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/238 "2009-06-08T18:56:51Z")

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So now you can see that you guys where this close to figuring out Rysto. In fact, it was even mentioned a few times, but I don’t think anyone was sure enough of it (at an early enough time) to really run with it.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/239 "2009-06-08T19:00:05Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> By the way, Chronos. Did you know that no Blackhearts had voted for other Blackhearts Days 1-3, and that one had done so Day 4? We assumed that you got that information as part of your Role. If you did have that information you really, really should have claimed Night 4. That information could have turned the game around for the Town.

I’ll answer for him. No he didn’t, it was just good deductive reasoning. This was about the only thing you guys got wrong over on the Scum boards.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/240 "2009-06-08T19:05:06Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> I’ll answer for him. No he didn’t, it was just good deductive reasoning. This was about the only thing you guys got wrong over on the Scum boards.

That, and never even considering that there could be a Detective out there. That sank the scum in Batman and it nearly did us in in this one, too.

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