# Crimson Glyph forbidden thread: **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 30, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861 "2009-04-30T16:57:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/241 "2009-06-08T19:21:50Z")
Role PM You are The Atheist, a Blackheart. For years, you were not acecpted. In England, you were not accepted as you were not an anglican. In Boston, you were not accepted because you were not a Puritan. But the Blackhearts seem to accept you. The say that, once they destroy this village, they’ll find you an accepting home. Powers: 1. You are a Blackheart. You can communicate with the other Blackhearts here: [http://notsogenericscum.proboards.com/index.cgi](http://notsogenericscum.proboards.com/index.cgi) using the account: username: password: 2. Each night, one of you can go out and kill. 3. Technically, you are Pure. Not that it matters for your win con, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/242 "2009-06-08T19:23:43Z")
USCDiver, why did you try to influence my vote a few Days ago? You tried to get us to kill Meeko for some reason and out of nowhere, you PMed me, an active player, and told me to kill Meeko. What’s up with that? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/243 "2009-06-08T19:33:21Z")
> [@](#): > > By the way, Chronos. Did you know that no Blackhearts had voted for other Blackhearts Days 1-3, and that one had done so Day 4? We assumed that you got that information as part of your Role. If you did have that information you really, really should have claimed Night 4. That information could have turned the game around for the Town. I had a guess, and I stated it as such. I’m glad that it proved to be as fruitful as it did, even though nobody actually voted according to it. And if I had survived and the Detective hadn’t called out any Blackhearts, I would have voted for **Rysto** on the Day after I died. **Mahaloth** was #2 on my list of suspicions for the entire game, but every time it came to the vote, someone went and did something even scummier. **Joey** , though, I didn’t suspect at all. Well, I suspected him more than **Meeko** , of course, but I don’t think he did anything the whole game that gave me reason to suspect him. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/244 "2009-06-08T19:34:02Z")
> [@Telcontar](#): > > I’m flattered. Also dead. Funny how often those go together :). Yes, I felt a bit bad about that, actually. I wanted you in the game for longer, but I remember your play really well from the Werewolf Split and we had no idea who to kill on Night One. I suggested it…then I did it. I did the kill action, while Rysto protected someone and Joey investigated someone’s sinful status every Night. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/245 "2009-06-08T19:36:17Z")
Oh, and not that I had anything to hide, but my exact role PM: > [@](#): > > You are Governor Winthrop. The old governor, you have much experience in politics, as well as much respect. Hopefully, you can use these to help the town fight back. > > 1. Each night, you can pick one player. The next day, you can change their vote regularly as you see fit. PM me when you want them to change their vote. > 2. During the day, if you don’t want the town to lynch a player, you can PM me to stop the lynch. > > You are Town. ---
**Author:** ![Telcontar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Telcontar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telcontar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/246 "2009-06-08T19:37:33Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > So now you can see that you guys where this close to figuring out Rysto. In fact, it was even mentioned a few times, but I don’t think anyone was sure enough of it (at an early enough time) to really run with it. Had the Dead been playing rysto would have died in place of allwalker; the moment i saw that Chillingworth had pretended to be a doctor in the book I knew not to take Rysto at face value. then Mahaloth would have died. Whether we’d have found you after I’m not sure, there wasn’t a whole lot pointing to you (and you were the first with the false PM). Would have matted a lot who was still alive. As I mentioned somewhere above, **IS** had attracted a fair bit of suspicion. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/247 "2009-06-08T19:43:10Z")
I’m waiting for peeker to brag about “knowing” I was a BH, but he still had no evidence and his vote was totally random. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/248 "2009-06-08T19:59:57Z")
Eh, he also “knew” that you and I were working together. Which still baffles me-- Like I said, I was suspicious of you for close to the whole game. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/249 "2009-06-08T20:07:48Z")
**Hey ped, how about some spoilers?** ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/250 "2009-06-08T20:42:47Z")
Not that it makes a difference, but I believe Ped missed Meeko’s vote in the vote count, which means if Peeker had gotten around to voting Rysto it would have put us at a coinflip. Also, Paul, what was the deal with your vote on me? ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/251 "2009-06-08T21:23:32Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > USCDiver, why did you try to influence my vote a few Days ago? You tried to get us to kill Meeko for some reason and out of nowhere, you PMed me, an active player, and told me to kill Meeko. > > What’s up with that? You guys were trying to decide which of the Masons to kill that night and Meeko was annoying the hell out of me. Obviously, keeping him in the game was the right choice strategically. It was a tongue in cheek suggestion, more or less. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/252 "2009-06-08T22:24:02Z")
Fair warning gang. I’m in here, and I am about to get my learning on. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/253 "2009-06-08T22:38:51Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I think Meeko is a sock for Yogi Berra Mafia is 90% deduction, the other half is posting. 😉 Oh, and Telcontar, WTF is a Block list? You would Blacklist players in an active game? Your role may have been town, \*\*but if the player is that Anti-town, I’m glad they got you night 1. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/254 "2009-06-08T22:49:49Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, so **Meeko** claimed to have guessed that I was the politician, and apparently the Blackhearts figured it out, too. > [@Hoopy\_Frood](#): > > I don’t know how Meeko figured it out (or if even really did), Chronos, You mean that you DIDN’T catch my returned breadcrumbs? I was on and on about the fact that I was picking up breadcrumbs. I threw in a few. Your phrase included “” **The Person you are looking at will live** “” I had to re-read it, and in the second reading, I couldn’t shake the "Why would he Say tha… Oh my god, he is the politician, isnt he?! " Later, I was talking about MAGIC, but I got to toss in a statement : “” **I see what you are doing here, Chronos. Are you playing games with me?** “” Your immediate next sentence was simply " Yes ". I knew at that moment, you were the politican. You were over the top about Voting systems, if only town could vote this way, if only sinners could do this, or that. Vote this way… Vote that Way… VOTE VOTE VOTE. You were over the stop spilling bread on the fact that you had, for lack of better words, a Vote fetish. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/255 "2009-06-08T22:58:41Z")
> [@Telcontar](#): > > Good, sane, town players tend to die early. For example, there is a reason why Ed is in here and meeko is still playing. 😛 I have the Madness down. Damn, if I could only just get the method. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/256 "2009-06-08T23:01:08Z")
> [@Telcontar](#): > > The game was set up for a bloody, complicated, and potential cool endgame. Town might even have had a chance, depending on exactly what was going on with the sinners. So why the Noob Hate? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/257 "2009-06-08T23:07:07Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > Does he realize that he played terribly or does he blame Town for not understanding his genius? \*\* Pure and simple, I blame Pede. \*\* It is an uphill battle for town to begin with. Fine. That is the game, I get that. But to be Gastard, and not admit it? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/258 "2009-06-08T23:10:53Z")
It’s a shoddy craftsman who blames his tools, Meeko. The BHs got lucky at the beginning and by the end they had a bunch of sheep to lead around. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/259 "2009-06-08T23:13:35Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > \*\* > Pure and simple, I blame Pede. \*\* > > It is an uphill battle for town to begin with. Fine. That is the game, I get that. > > But to be Gastard, and not admit it? I hate to be the one to tell you this, but there was nothing wrong with the game. It was your playstyle, that caused the problems for town, and in no small part contributed to the BH win. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861/260 "2009-06-08T23:20:38Z")
> [@](#): > > I knew at that moment, you were the politican. You were over the top about Voting systems, if only town could vote this way, if only sinners could do this, or that. > > Vote this way… Vote that Way… VOTE VOTE VOTE. No, I was paying so much attention to voting because I was playing Mafia. That’s what you do when you play Mafia; you should try it some time. And where I said “Yes”, I was responding to the question you had asked immediately previously (about whether there was a downside to starting the mass-claim early), and to make it abundantly clear what question I was responding to, I even quoted it at the start of my post. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crimson-glyph-forbidden-thread/494861.md?page=14)