# Crisis on Infinite Earths - CW Arrowverse crossover 2019-20

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 18, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crisis-on-infinite-earths-cw-arrowverse-crossover-2019-20/841930 "2019-10-18T01:36:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crisis-on-infinite-earths-cw-arrowverse-crossover-2019-20/841930/121 "2020-01-19T18:38:28Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Are you asking who they were?
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> 1. Nia Nal/Dreamer from _Supergirl_ - main power is precognition, but can also fire psychic blasts; a distant ancestor of Dream Girl from the Legion of Super Heroes
> 2. Rene Ramirez/Wild Dog from _Arrow_ - he wears a hockey mask and shoots things
> 3. Killer Frost/Caitlin Snow from _The Flash_ - ice, frost, and snow powers
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> …

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crisis-on-infinite-earths-cw-arrowverse-crossover-2019-20/841930/122 "2020-01-19T19:17:51Z")

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For a black outfit with a star, how about [Dr. Light](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kimiyo_Hoshi_(DCAU)). She was a major player in the comic Crisis.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crisis-on-infinite-earths-cw-arrowverse-crossover-2019-20/841930/123 "2020-01-19T22:24:49Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> For a black outfit with a star, how about [Dr. Light](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Kimiyo_Hoshi_(DCAU)). She was a major player in the comic Crisis.

The Arrowverse version doesn’t have a star on her chest, nor did she appear in the Crisis cross-over. **simster** is right that the the symbol on the Arrowverse Killer Frost is supposed to be a snowflake, but I don’t think it would wrong to call a stylized “snowflake” like that a “star”, especially if you don’t know who the character is. Anyway, this is empirical.

**DrDeth** , does the the image I linked match your memory of “a woman in a black suit with a star on her chest”"?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crisis-on-infinite-earths-cw-arrowverse-crossover-2019-20/841930/124 "2020-01-20T00:30:00Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> The Arrowverse version doesn’t have a star on her chest, nor did she appear in the Crisis cross-over. **simster** is right that the the symbol on the Arrowverse Killer Frost is supposed to be a snowflake, but I don’t think it would wrong to call a stylized “snowflake” like that a “star”, especially if you don’t know who the character is. Anyway, this is empirical.
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> **DrDeth** , does the the image I linked match your memory of “a woman in a black suit with a star on her chest”"?

Yes, that was her. I still think it looks more like a star than a snowflake.

[https://www.google.com/search?q=stylized+snowflakes&sxsrf=ACYBGNSveb51V-PYMM2E2TCmH5Hffdg2Yw:1579480155925&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiOpP6M9pDnAhVWvZ4KHej7CfgQ\_AUoAXoECAsQAw&biw=1598&bih=848](https://www.google.com/search?q=stylized+snowflakes&sxsrf=ACYBGNSveb51V-PYMM2E2TCmH5Hffdg2Yw:1579480155925&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiOpP6M9pDnAhVWvZ4KHej7CfgQ_AUoAXoECAsQAw&biw=1598&bih=848)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crisis-on-infinite-earths-cw-arrowverse-crossover-2019-20/841930/125 "2020-01-20T01:42:25Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> I kept thinking “Well, it’s no Endgame, but for third-rate TV shows, they’re doing… okay. So why do I keep watching it?”
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> But then they’d throw in a little easter egg and I’d get giddy and say “_That’s_ why I keep watching!” Beebo, Lucifer, Constantine, Marv, Smallville Clark, Jim Corrigan, unapologetically using Brandon Routh for Supes2 and Ray ("There’s a super-me?”), the Doom Patrol, Ezra Miller…
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> … and of course, Gleek!

Yeah, but are they bringing back Constantine, the series, or can I just delete the CW app?

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crisis-on-infinite-earths-cw-arrowverse-crossover-2019-20/841930/126 "2020-01-20T02:25:19Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Yeah, but are they bringing back Constantine, the series, or can I just delete the CW app?

He’s still a series regular on _Legends of Tomorrow_, so in that sense they’re bringing back Constantine this week (the first post-Crisis episode of Season 5 airs this Tuesday, on the app I think the following day). He’s actually become almost the central character of the series - it’s almost become _Constantine and the Legends of Tomorrow_.

If you’re asking about the series _Constantine_, re-runs of it are currently available on the CW app, but it was an NBC series cancelled 5 years ago, so…that’s not coming back. It’s the same actor, and the CW now has the rights to the former NBC series, so it’s kinda-sorta retroactively in continuity with the current Arrowverse.

CW Seed (I think that’s part of the app) also has the _Constantine: City of Demons_ animated series, with the same actor doing the voice, but that’s technically in continuity with the _Justice League: Dark_ animated movie, which is part of the current DC Universe Animated Original Movies (which is a different continuity from the DC Animated Universe), and is not in continuity with the Arrowverse version of Constantine.

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