# Critical issue about "Back to the Future"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 30, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600 "2011-08-30T07:39:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/21 "2011-08-30T15:30:33Z")

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One change that never made sense to me: After Marty had such an influence on his parents in 1955, he comes back to 1985 where they still named their _second_ son after him. Whoever Dave was named for must have been really great to still get top billing in the family. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/22 "2011-08-30T15:48:27Z")

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Dougie, reading that thread from 2000, it seems pretty clear to me that you don’t even take the time to _watch_ a movie before drawing conclusions about it. I don’t see how it’s useful to engage your uninformed opinions about them.

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**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/23 "2011-08-30T16:01:06Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> I think the crucial testimony came from P. Farnsworth:

It appears the OP confused Michael J. Fox with Phillip J. Fry.

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**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/24 "2011-08-30T16:17:55Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I expended considerable energy years ago on a thread I started in The Pit, on movie content I disapproved of, including _Back to the Future._  
> However, what I would like to know is this:  
> During the 1950s sequence–which I did not see–my understanding is that Fox’s character desperately tries to get his parents together to preserve his own existence. I recently read something–I forget the source–suggesting he even considered _raping_ his mother to accomplish this!:eek: That is a horrifying thought. Am I anywhere near correct on this? ☹

Perhaps you were watching “Back_side_ to the Future”? 😃

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/25 "2011-08-30T16:18:11Z")

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> [@Pitchmeister](#):
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> Well, technically the OP isn’t totally off base. His plan is to appear to molest her, but only long enough for his dad to notice and save the day.

Right. His plan is not to molest her, but to _attempt_ illicit activity, at which (he thinks) she’ll be so outraged, vigorously resist, and really appreciate George’s faux-rescue:

> [@](#):
>
> George:
> 
> Yeah, but I never picked a fight in my entire life.  
> Marty:
> 
> Your not gonna be picking a fight, Dad, (covering) Dad, Dad, Daddy-o. You’re coming to a rescue, right? OK, let’s go over the plan again. 8.55, where are you gonna be?  
> George:
> 
> I’m gonna be at the dance.  
> Marty:
> 
> Right, and where am I gonna be?  
> George:
> 
> You’re gonna be in the car with her.  
> Marty:
> 
> Right, OK, so right around 9 o’clock she’s gonna get very angry with me.  
> George:
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> Why is she gonna get angry with you?  
> Marty:
> 
> Well, because George, nice girls get angry when guys take advantage of them.
> 
> George:
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> (horrified) Ho, you mean you’re gonna touch her on her-  
> Marty:
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> No, no, George, look, it’s just an act, right? OK, so 9 o’clock you’re strolling through the parking lot, you see us struggling in the car, you walk up, you open the door and you say…  
> (Silence.)
> 
> Marty:
> 
> …your line, George!

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/26 "2011-08-30T16:19:32Z")

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Get your hands off her, you…dirty ape!

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**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/27 "2011-08-30T16:34:08Z")

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It’s

“you get your _damn_ hands off of her”  
“Do you really think I should swear?”

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/28 "2011-08-30T16:35:44Z")

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Honest question :

Are you fucking high?

Joe

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/29 "2011-08-30T16:40:26Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Man, that thread is ten kinds of crazy.
> 
> [Unabashed rant: What I object to about specific movies - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=47127)

Was the OP the same guy who pitted the new Scooby Doo movie for desecrating the memory of the cartoon?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/30 "2011-08-30T16:59:52Z")

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Wow.

After reading the linked thread:

Just wow.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/31 "2011-08-30T17:04:55Z")

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This thread brings up an issue in a different issue for me. Now in _Saving Private Ryan_, as I understand it, because I actually have not seen any of the parts related to WWII, Private Ryan is thwarted from killing Hitler by a velociraptor. Is my understanding correct?

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**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/32 "2011-08-30T17:07:02Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> This thread brings up an issue in a different issue for me. Now in _Saving Private Ryan_, as I understand it, because I actually have not seen any of the parts related to WWII, Private Ryan is thwarted from killing Hitler by a velociraptor. Is my understanding correct?

Yes, now put down the bong and go to sleep.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/33 "2011-08-30T17:15:20Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
>
> Wow.
> 
> After reading the linked thread:
> 
> Just wow.

For even crazier try his reaction to the Ventura Brother’s spoof of Scooby:

> [@What's the usual level of difficulty in solving a Scooby Doo mystery?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/61):
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> [coldly]  
> What happened is that the characters, whom I remember as fit for impressionable kids watching Saturday morning cartoons, seem–in the specific setting I referred to–to have sold out to characterizations more befitting Underground comics, whose writers (and editors) take the copyrighted characters and pervert them (Velma and “lesbianism”). This seems more to suit the intellectual snobs and other little minds–if you get my drift.

> [@What's the usual level of difficulty in solving a Scooby Doo mystery?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/31):
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> Is this a lame joke or ar you just consistently contrary?  
> Sounds to me that The Venture Brothers were concoted simply to turn things around (“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”)  
> I hope their production company has a good lawyer in case Hanna-Barbera decides to sue.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/34 "2011-08-30T17:20:55Z")

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And here I thought this would be about the fact that Marty McFly changed the entire Universe so he can get a new Pick Up Truck.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/35 "2011-08-30T17:26:07Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> For even crazier try his reaction to the Ventura Brother’s spoof of Scooby:

What truly amazes me is that the original thread (from 2000!) had a lot of people trying to explain the issues with **dougie** ’s preferred method of analyzing movies, and it’s apparent he learned absolutely nothing from it. Nine and eleven years later, he’s still going off half-cocked.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/36 "2011-08-30T17:28:31Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> What truly amazes me is that the original thread (from 2000!) had a lot of people trying to explain the issues with **dougie** ’s preferred method of analyzing movies, and it’s apparent he learned absolutely nothing from it. Nine and eleven years later, he’s still going off half-cocked.

There’s no stopping the crazy. I do love that he added that he was speaking “[coldly].”

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/37 "2011-08-30T17:28:39Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> This thread brings up an issue in a different issue for me. Now in _Saving Private Ryan_, as I understand it, because I actually have not seen any of the parts related to WWII, Private Ryan is thwarted from killing Hitler by a velociraptor. Is my understanding correct?

Close, but he was trying to kill Hitler \*with \*a velociraptor, but the velociraptor did not cooperate.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/38 "2011-08-30T17:53:28Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
>
> Wow.
> 
> After reading the linked thread:
> 
> Just wow.

I miss the days when you could tell another poster to fuck off. Oftentimes, a more complicated and euphemistic version of the same sentiment lacks that curt, visceral, direct satisfaction.

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**Author:** ![Southpaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@Southpaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southpaw)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/39 "2011-08-30T18:07:34Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> One change that never made sense to me: After Marty had such an influence on his parents in 1955, he comes back to 1985 where they still named their _second_ son after him. Whoever Dave was named for must have been really great to still get top billing in the family. 🙂

Didn’t 1955 Lorraine think 1955 Marty’s name was Calvin (Klein) because that was stitched on his underwear? So if 1985 Marty was named after 1955 Marty he would’ve been named Calvin.

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**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/40 "2011-08-30T18:08:31Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
>
> movie content I disapproved of

I sincerely think you should start a personal blog titled the above. I have no doubt it would quickly become an internet sensation. I would likely buy a T-shirt with one of your more astute quotes.

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