# Critical issue about "Back to the Future" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 30, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600 "2011-08-30T07:39:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/81 "2011-08-31T14:49:15Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > “When I watched the movie _Casino_, I was shocked - _shocked!_ - to discover it had gambling in it.” It does? I didn’t watch the parts about the casino industry. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/82 "2011-08-31T14:53:40Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I hope he reviews _Dodgeball_. Or _Galaxy Quest_. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/83 "2011-08-31T15:32:06Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Or _Galaxy Quest_. Ah, but he would identify with believing The Historical Documents… “Surely you don’t think Gilligan’s Island really happened?” _“Those poooor peeeeople…”_ ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/84 "2011-08-31T15:44:45Z")
Man, it must suck to have culture peak when you’re 8. I bet you and **Starving Artist** would have a lot to talk about. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/85 "2011-08-31T15:48:39Z")
Let’s add **mangeorge** in. He doesn’t seem to grok that those are actors in commercials, not real people. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/86 "2011-08-31T16:32:32Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > This seems an appropriate thread to [post this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNB5mfDSo3Q). For those who would like a description, it is footage of Christopher Lloyd as Doc Brown shot recently for a commercial. > [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > What was that? It’s an ad for a Garbarino electronics store in Argentina. I guess they paid pretty well. The closeups of the car are the actual car from the movie(one of the original props), but the car that speeds down the road is a modified Toyota Celica. [You can read about it here. It’s neat.](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/51026) ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/87 "2011-08-31T16:44:35Z")
If it’s an ad for Argentina, why is he speaking English while the other actors are speaking Spanish? Can most people speak both? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/88 "2011-08-31T20:33:42Z")
> [@Hogfather65](#): > > But did Methuselah See Saw Naw. ---
**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/89 "2011-08-31T20:58:44Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > She was pregnant, but with one of his younger siblings. Ah, right… yes, that’s much better. Sorta. 🙂 > [@](#): > > (his mom at one point gives him a lock of her red public hair) Public hair? 😉 I thought Maureen was a _little_ more discreet than that. > [@](#): > > My memories are a bit hazy, in part from a reflexive effort at suppression. I’m sorry to have brought up painful memories. 🙂 I have a similar feeling about his later book… errmmm… _The Cat Who Walks Into the Sunset on Fridays_… or somesuch. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/90 "2011-08-31T21:12:20Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Ah, but he would identify with believing The Historical Documents… > > “Surely you don’t think Gilligan’s Island really happened?” > _“Those poooor peeeeople…”_ No offense, but that was my whole point. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/91 "2011-08-31T21:38:34Z")
> [@Apollyon](#): > > Ah, right… yes, that’s much better. Sorta. 🙂 > Public hair? 😉 I thought Maureen was a _little_ more discreet than that. > > I’m sorry to have brought up painful memories. 🙂 I have a similar feeling about his later book… errmmm… _The Cat Who Walks Into the Sunset on Fridays_… or somesuch. I’ve liked most of Heinlen’s stuff I’ve read (both the ones when he was an ultra-conservative and the ones when he was a free-love hippie), but I could not stand Stranger in a Strange Land, and I’m the only person I personally know who read it and did not like it. As a result, I love Number of the Beast forever if only because the characters get into a literature discussion, and begin to heatedly debate whether or not Stranger in a Strange Land had any redeeming qualities. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/92 "2011-08-31T21:43:12Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > but I could not stand Stranger in a Strange Land FWIW, I thought it was stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/93 "2011-08-31T21:43:32Z")
I read _Stranger_ and didn’t like it. There were some scattered parts here and there that were mildly interesting, but my overall impression is that it’s a big sexist dated wankoff. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/94 "2011-09-01T13:20:21Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > One change that never made sense to me: After Marty had such an influence on his parents in 1955, he comes back to 1985 where they still named their _second_ son after him. Whoever Dave was named for must have been really great to still get top billing in the family. 🙂 I like Cracked’s take on it: so the son gets born and looks exactly like the guy the mother hung out with in high school and who the mother had a crush on? And is named after him? Innnnteresting. But George seems ok with it, so… Also, what’s dougie’s objection to Huey Lewis and the News? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/95 "2011-09-01T13:56:00Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Also, what’s dougie’s objection to Huey Lewis and the News? He’s outraged that Lewis advocates getting a new drug. How could he condone such destructive behavior? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/96 "2011-09-01T14:53:22Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I like Cracked’s take on it: so the son gets born and looks exactly like the guy the mother hung out with in high school and who the mother had a crush on? And is named after him? Innnnteresting. But George seems ok with it, so… Well, it was a week-long hang out crush (Nov. 5 - Nov. 12, 1955) at best. I’m skeptical that Lorraine would even remember what 1955-Marty looked like as young Marty grew up. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/97 "2011-09-01T16:14:14Z")
Maybe Dave was an obligatory name. Like they wanted to name their first kid after an uncle or one of their granddads. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/98 "2011-09-01T16:44:22Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Well, it was a week-long hang out crush (Nov. 5 - Nov. 12, 1955) at best. I’m skeptical that Lorraine would even remember what 1955-Marty looked like as young Marty grew up. Possibly some troubled bells might ring if the young Marty does indeed set fire to a carpet, as time-tossed “Calvin” cryptically warned. Of course, _that_ young Marty was raised by mutually respecting and wealthier parents - odds are his personality and childhood were nothing like “original” Marty’s. Heck, “new” Marty jumped into the time machine at Lone Pine Mall (as, in his recollection, it has always been called) to return to a 1955 that is totally unlike any stories his parents might have told him in childhood, as oppsed to “original” Marty who heard repeatredly about his parents meeting when his dad was hit by his mother’s father’s car. Possibly “new” Marty will have heard about this mysterious “Calvin” who saved George’s life and later had a peripheral matchmaker role. “New” Marty might be keeping an eye out for Calvin and not watching young George at all, leading to George getting hit by the car as was “meant” to happen and he returns to a 1985 that looks familiar to the audience but is a nightmare to him with a domineering car-wrecking Biff, a wussy George, and no monster-jeep to drive around in. _It’s so confoozing!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/99 "2011-09-01T18:46:48Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Possibly some troubled bells might ring if the young Marty does indeed set fire to a carpet, as time-tossed “Calvin” cryptically warned. > > Of course, _that_ young Marty was raised by mutually respecting and wealthier parents - odds are his personality and childhood were nothing like “original” Marty’s. So is New Marty the one who’s always randomly getting pissed off at being called chicken? ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600/100 "2011-09-01T19:09:07Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > …and no monster-jeep to drive around in. > > _It’s so confoozing!!_ Toyota 4x4 pickup. Which, considering his two older siblings and parents all share one BMW, he could have been more gratefull for. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/critical-issue-about-back-to-the-future/594600.md?page=6)