# Cromwell! Shakespeare! Admiral Nelson! Churchill! ...and Brunel??! Wha? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 20, 2002, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116 "2002-10-20T17:48:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/21 "2002-11-05T15:13:48Z")
Doesn’t Cromwell lose points for being exhumed and hanged when Charles II returned? ---
**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/22 "2002-11-05T16:01:54Z")
I don’t know about points, but he’d certainly lost some weight by then. I don’t recall that incident being emphasised in Richard Holmes’s rose-tinted documentary last Friday either. In any case, the candidates seem to have risen in the poll immediately after “their” programmes have been broadcast, and Cromwell is currently lying in sixth place, so that’s likely to be the highest he’ll get. It’s Horatio Nelson tonight. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/23 "2002-11-05T16:56:35Z")
It was mentioned at the end of the programme. Holmes talked about how he was buried headless somewhere in the area he was standing (It looked like The Mall?) There’s a plaque on the ground to mark the spot. ---
**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/24 "2002-11-05T17:41:10Z")
here’s Brunel’s grave: [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=1931](http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=1931) Told you it was small. Its upkeep is paid by the Civil Engineers Society. Incidentaly this is the famous clown’s next to him: [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9420](http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9420) Pah! ---
**Author:** ![Urban\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Urban\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urban_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/25 "2002-11-06T11:39:03Z")
I thought Humphry Davy or Priestley would have some serious claims to the top ten. ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/26 "2002-11-06T11:43:57Z")
[slight hijack] Richard Holmes’ book on life as a British soldier in the 1800s - “Redcoat” - is very good. It wouldn’t normally be my cup of tea but was a good read. [end of hijack] ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/27 "2002-11-06T20:10:38Z")
**Fenris** Richard Couer De Lion would make a pretty bad choice on three counts, one was that he was that he hardly spent any of his kingship in Britain, and his antics seriously depleted the nations finances. Two, he would likely have preferred to be considered French since at the time this was a sign of aristocracy. He was fundamentally responsible for the rift between Islam and Christianity with his brutal excesses in the Holy lands, indeed one could argue that the grudging tolerance that the Crusaders had from Moslem leaders was completely undermined by him and led to the loss of that area for centuries as they were driven out by the Moslem army under Bayber. ---
**Author:** ![kevlaw](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kevlaw/32/2281_2.png) [@kevlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevlaw)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/28 "2002-11-08T01:14:40Z")
> [@](#): > > He built a bridge And Frank Lloyd Wright built houses. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2002, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116/29 "2002-11-08T09:28:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kevlaw \* > \*\* > > And Frank Lloyd Wright built houses. \*\* My point exactly (and better said than mine). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cromwell-shakespeare-admiral-nelson-churchill-and-brunel-wha/133116.md?page=1)