Cross country drive: What shouldn't be missed?

Roads aren’t bad. There are a couple of summits, but unless its actively snowing, you’ll be fine. The NDOT is very good at snow removal. All that casino money. :wink:

395 is prettier, but really, very far out of the way for what it sounds like you are doing. Also, more snow. And its California, so the roads are in worse shape.

A hearty second! I drive in snow a lot, as I am a skier, and rarely need to use the wipers. It just hits the window, and slides right off. I go “mudding” in my Jeep, too. Mud just slides right off the windshield.

Yep, now that I know we’re neighbors, 395 counts as “almost home, save it for another local adventure.”

Thanks for the wealth of information. I am now looking forward to this trip even more. It’s a slog driving cross country in 5 days, especially in the wintertime. But a plan like this makes it more palatable and I’ve gotten some very good advice here. My big takeaways are new windshield wipers, Rain-X, be prepared to buy chains, Meteor Crater & Hoover Dam, shortcuts through NV, avoid Dallas if possible.

Questions still remain:
[ul][li]Any feedback or advice for single night stays on Airbnb. Should I book soon or wait to see where we are?[/li][li]What’s it like driving through Louisiana? Speedtraps? How about the gulf coast through AL and MS?[/li][li]Is it a good idea to detour around Dallas adding a few more miles to avoid Dallas traffic?[/li][/ul]

Yes!!! And don’t worry, I’m glad you participated otherwise I wouldn’t have known we’re practically neighbors. Twoflower, we should definitely meet if you’re up for it. I’m sure we could share ideas for places to see, things to do around here.

Thank you, Bullitt, again and Gatopescado. Your contributions are invaluable.

My new home is one of the big Victorians in the Mill/Pine neighborhood in Roseburg …

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Pick up the 101 somewhere below the Bay Area … the Golden Gate Bridge ought to impress the flatlander from Florida …

Is it one of these?

Yeah, not this trip. He’s not a flatlander either. Born in Hawaii, has lived in the midwest and Florida. I don’t think he’s been to CA, but he can visit on his own time. Not to take away from the obvious impressiveness of the Golden Gate, but neither of us prefer to drive up I-5 through CA and we don’t have time to go to all of the places I’d like to take him to. And, ugh…traffic. We’ll save it for another time.

You are VERY welcome! I am happy to help!

Did I miss where you will end up in Oregon?

From Henderson to I-5 misses all LA traffic and comes in at Bakersfield. From Bakersfield to Portland, you will hit some traffic acround Sacramento, and then there is construction that slows stuff down around the Cali/Oregon border. For just chewing up the miles, it can’t be beat. My decades old experience of Reno on i80 to I5 is pretty good - and it is a real rare day when I80 gets shut for snow.

(I just did a leave thurs return Sun trip with my kids a few weeks ago from Seattle to Sacto. There ain’t shit close to a short detour worth taking from Seattle to San Diego. Jus’ saying. BTW, we spent the night in Roseburg on the way to Sacto, and hit the local bowling alley, which was a ton of fun for my kids since we never do that. There is also a semi decent Chinese restaurant with HUGE portions there. Straight shot Sacto back to Seattle with an average speed of 65 MPH - my kids are troopers.)

We’re in the Rogue Valley: Medford, so once we hit the Oregon border, pretty much home. I know about the construction

Yeah, that’s a long drive. You do have amazing kids. I’ll be driving up to Stanwood from Medford in a few weeks for two days before turning around and driving back. It’s a haul, but we usually stop in PDX to eat lunch and pick up donuts (not Voodoo).

Grand Canyon is certainly the “must” on the list. Meteor Crater is pretty ginchy and a quick stop; note that you can take a picture standing next to a statue of a (somewhat) famous singer in front of a flatbed Ford standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona if that means anything to you.

Notorious speed trap in Wikieup, Arizona if that is on your route; slow down as soon as you see the speed limit sign and keep it down until the sign says to resume speed – even though your speed will feel unreasonably slow after many hours of high speed travel.

The Boulder Dam tour is very interesting if it suits your schedule. Do the Vegas Strip and downtown at night; it’s not much to see in the daytime. Unless you specifically want to gawk at giant fish tanks or marble floors or something, take your Henderson friend’s advice on which locals casino to visit for your gambling venture; casinos all have the same games and places oriented toward locals payoff better than tourist oriented joints.

Even for those of us who enjoy long drives and who can appreciate the stark beauty of desert landscape the Las Vegas to Reno drive is long and boring but that doesn’t mean you should avoid it – it’s a fine thing to have done.

Minor point in a major expedition, but I-5 is no longer narrowed to one lane over the Klamath River bridge, as of my trip down south last week.

I make the drive from the mid-Atlantic to California now and again, and there are two ways to go, really. I-80 and I-40. I’m starting to much prefer I-40 - for me the distance is about the same, scenery is slightly better (well, more varied, anyway), and I think the food is better - Tex-Mex and BBQ.

Some of the more off the beaten path sights and places -

Just west of Amarillo is the Cadillac Ranch. Cadillac Ranch - Wikipedia Not much there, and not much to do - get out, tag a car, take a picture, go about your way. It’s on the south side of the road, so you will have to loop around to get to it, so it may not be worth it. You can see it from the road, so you may choose to just wave at it as you go by.

Just across the NM line, at the first exit (after the welcome center) is Russell’s Travel Center http://www.russellsttc.com It’s a truck stop*, sure, but the big thing is the car museum. All the cars belong to the Russell family, and are both old and new. There will be about 30 or so, and they rotate them, so you never know what you will see. (After Carroll Shelby died, they brought in 5 or 6 Mustangs - thousands of All-American horsepower and tons of Detroit iron. It was a beautiful thing.) The also have other stuff on display. You will have to make 2 passes - one pass around the inner loop to look at the cars, one pass around the outer loop to look at the stuff. Look at the pictures on the web site, you’ll see what I mean. It’s free. The associated diner also makes a pretty good burger, and the other offerings are better than fair.

If you want something more exotic, there is Taste of India in San Jon, just down the road. It’s fair, and completely unexpected in the middle of Nowhere, New Mexico.

At mile 113, is a scenic overlook at Laguna Pueblo. It’s a pretty place to stop and look at the church on the hill, and stretch your legs a bit. There’s nothing there, no rest rooms, no vending, just trash cans, and, maybe, some of the locals selling trinkets beside the road. They probably not in January, but the view is pretty. If the weather is bad, just wave as you go by.

I took a picture standing on the corner, in Winslow Arizona, with a flat bed Ford Standin' on the Corner Park - Wikipedia . I grew up with that song. Bonus points if you have the song playing as you get near town. There are a few tourist stores right around that area for trinkets and souvenirs. If there is a good place to eat in Winslow, I’ve never found it, but I’m open to suggestions from the Teeming Millions.

I also disagree with friend Turble about Meteor Crater meteorcrater.com . I think it’s worth it. You can spend, say, 45 minutes and hit the highlights, or up to maybe 2 1/2 hours reading all the placards in the museum and doing the rim walk (only about 1/4 of the rim, really, and they may not be doing to that time of year). Yeah, it’s just a big hole in the ground, but what it is and how it came to be there is worth hearing about and seeing. Where else will you ever get a chance to get that close to a recognizable meteor crater on this planet?

You didn’t say how you plan to get from the GC to Henderson. If you loop to the north, you can pass thru Colorado City and Hildale, the (previous) home of Warren Jeffs. I’ve never been.

If you go back down south to I-40 west, you will pass by Seligman. It’s worth driving thru town - there are a few tourist stops. Eat at the Road Kill Cafe - food is a bit better than fair.

If you want the experience of driving on the old Route 66, stay on 66 out of Seligman to the west, to Kingman. It’s probably the longest, well preserved segment of Route 66, and it won’t add a lot of time on your run to Kingman, maybe 30 or 40 minutes, unless you stop an a roadside attraction. I’ve only ever stoped at the Grand Canyon Caverns http://gccaverns.com , and, well, I wasn’t impressed. Full disclosure - my standard is the limestone caves we have here in the east coast.

As far as where to sleep, understand the on I-40 from Amarillo to Kingman, hotels can be miles apart - 50, 60 miles or more. I stop at the Welcome Centers just inside the state lines, and get the hotel coupon books. These will let you know the rate you’ll pay, as well as an address to put into your GPS so you can see how far. There have been nights I’ve stoped only because the next hotel was just a bit farther away than I was comfortable with.

Food - other than what I’ve mentioned above, I tend to look for non-chain BBQ and Mexican on that stretch. I’ve not had a bad meal, and some that were good. Amarillo is your last best chance for Texas BBQ - I’ve not had really good brisket outside of Texas or Oklahoma.

*Truck stops - I stop at truck stops. They are easy off, easy on the interstate. They have clean restrooms. The associated convenience store has better than convenience store prices for munchies. Not supermarket prices, but better than 7-11. If you burn out a headlight, they have them, and anything else you may need for minor repairs. They often have a sit down place to eat if you feel the need (and sometimes, it’s good, like Russell’s). They have good turnover on their gas, so you won’t get a tank full of condensate. They have good turnover on the coffee, so it’s fresh. Truckers demand all those things, so they have to deliver.

You be sure to keep that positive attitude in mind when you take that Pete Henrich’s shortcut. :smiley:

Good to know!

No kidding! The damn thing isn’t even marked! I’ll miss it for sure if it’s dark. But if it’s dark by the time I get there, something’s gone terribly wrong and I might have to stay at your place because there’s no way I’m gonna make it to Oregon. :wink:

If you can take the boring drive through West Texas, a southern route might avoid some possible weather problems; last cross country drive we were stuck in a snowstorm on I40 east of Albuquerque for 4.5 hours - in May. If you go west on I30 though Texas, you can cut north to Carlsbad Caverns - a pretty spectacular place normally well off the beaten track. 2-3 hours. Then head west, pick up I10 to I17 in Phoenix (time your trip to avoid rush hour) and it will take you right to Sedona and Grand Canyon.

Also, regarding hotels, we use the Expedia app. At dinner time we estimate how much further we want to go that day, then book right through the app.

Didn’t notice if there is a pet involved, but if there is than La Quinta is the best chain - almost every hotel (except the ones in Manhattan, I think) accepts pets with no surcharge.

To each his own I guess. I have driven every highway in the state and find it all beautiful.

Ok, for those of you who are still following along, I’ve made a Google map with the planned route. At this point, I have an alternate planned through San Antonio, Phoenix, and coming up I-5 in California if the weather prevents us from taking the I-40 route. So this is the one. Each day is separated and I’ve added fuel stops but not lodging as I haven’t yet decided what I want to do on that. As mentioned, I’m leaning toward Airbnb. I mean really leaning. No pets will be joining us.

Overnights will be in Orlando, New Orleans, Amarillo, Flagstaff, and Henderson. We’ll likely Uber into NOLA and Vegas from where we’re staying. We’ll be mostly eating on the road from groceries purchased with occasional meals at special locations. Oysters, shrimp & grits, poboys for dinner and beignets & coffee for the road from NOLA, maybe a Tex-Mex dinner or good BBQ somewhere between Dallas and Amarillo (any ideas?), and I don’t know what in Vegas (there’s too much to choose from). You can spend a lot of money eating out for every meal, or you can save the money and splurge for two or three nice meals.

Thank you Dobbs for your great ideas! I remember driving I-40 between Barstow and OKC many years ago, passing the Cadillac Ranch but we never stopped. It might be nice to stretch our legs at Laguna Pueblo overlook. I’ll probably pass on the kitschy Route 66 traps, but hit Meteor Crater. Time is going to be so limited.

There are three stretches of I-40 where you end up at 7,000 ft. elevation and where snowstorms are possible- but May is extremely unusual! One stretch is east of Albuquerque, from Clines Corners to the Sandia Mountains. Then you descend through the pass into ABQ and you’re back to 5,000 feet.

The second stretch at 7,000 ft. is from around Grants NM to Gallup. Then you start descending again and by the time you get to Holbrook AZ you’re down to 5,000 feet. Finally, you climb back to 7,000 ft. around Flagstaff- and it’s all downhill from there. By the time you get to Kingman AZ you’re at 4,000 feet.

Any of those stretches can have closures in the winter so it’s wise to keep an eye on the weather. Brown Eyed Girl, I know you said you’d be doing that; sounds like you’ll be ready for just about anything!

Good point. I have an alternate route planned via san antonio/el paso/phoenix, but I’d prefer to avoid phoenix due to the traffic. If we stay in san antonio, we can have dinner on the riverwalk with friends. But the southern route is probably going to me we are not going to make it to grand canyon or las vegas due to time constraints and we’ll have to drive up I-5 through california. I can’t seem to make it work in five days without doing that.