# Crossing Over - the other side of credibility?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crossing-over-the-other-side-of-credibility/54531>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [February 15, 2001, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crossing-over-the-other-side-of-credibility/54531 "2001-02-15T01:44:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![JDeMobray](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@JDeMobray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JDeMobray)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2001, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crossing-over-the-other-side-of-credibility/54531/41 "2001-02-21T04:44:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lamia \*  
> **"Crossing Over" immediately follows “Lexx” on Sci-Fi, making for what is possibly the most horrible lineup in the history of television.**

All they need to do now is move “Black Scorpion” over, and the Pyramid of Darkness will be complete. 🙂

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2001, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crossing-over-the-other-side-of-credibility/54531/42 "2001-02-21T05:01:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lamia \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Screwtape \*  
> > \*\*No, what makes me dislike what he does, is that he presents his program as the truth. If it admitted to be fiction, I wouldn’t mind so much. It would be no more offensive than Firescape (nice one, Eve) or that trash about the French bimbo wandering the galaxy in search of her G-Spot. \*\*
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> I am so ashamed that I know this, but if you’re talking about “Lexx” then that bimbo is German.
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> “Crossing Over” immediately follows “Lexx” on Sci-Fi, making for what is possibly the most horrible lineup in the history of television.  
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Oh, goddess, yes! You know, Heinlein did sex in sci-fi so much better than that pile of crap that Sci-Fi ought to hang its head in shame for buying Lexx instead of using the money to film a Lazarus Long series.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2001, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crossing-over-the-other-side-of-credibility/54531/43 "2001-02-21T12:59:17Z")

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Needs2Know said:

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> Look you can all be outraged by this guy all you want.

Gosh, thanks for your approval.

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> I find him and the “Miss Cleo” commericals entertaining.

Yeah, as entertaining as a bank robbery.

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> So you think he’s a preditor, perhaps he is at that. But what he is doing is not illegal.

Are you sure? He is promising a service – for a fee – that he is not actually providing. Sounds like fraud to me.

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> There are plenty of confidence men and grifters out there bilking little old ladies out of there life savings on a genuine scam.

Oh, well, in that case let’s let this con man bilking people go without comment.

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> Hopefully they are caught and pay the price for it.

You’re sure? You’re not just going to blame them the way you blame people for falling for this particular grifter?

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> And yes, you don’t have to buy what this guy is selling.

And those little old ladies don’t have to buy what the other con men are selling. What is the difference?

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> Fighting ignorance my ass!

If you don’t like fighting ignorance, you’re in the wrong place. So is your ass.

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> Even modern science cannot say with any certainty exactly what happens to us after we die.

You’re right. But I bet modern science could tell us that this guy is a fraud – if he would allow himself to be tested, of course. Which he won’t (unless forced to), because he has nothing to gain and everything to lose.

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> There is obviously a market for what he’s selling.

There’s also a market for what those other con men are selling, but you supposedly see a difference there somehow.

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> And yes, they’ve parted with their money under the assumption that he can contact dead loved ones. Once again, anyone with half a brain can decide that he’s a fraud.

Once again, we see you trying to distinguish this con game from others, but giving no real reason for doing so.

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> It isn’t like there isn’t plenty of information out there that debunks what this guys does.

It isn’t like there isn’t plenty of information out there that debunks the pigeon drop or sweepstakes scams or sweetheart swindles. Yet those old ladies you mentioned earlier still lose their life savings to them. Oh, but those are _different_ somehow, I guess.

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**Author:** ![OrcaChow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e47c2d/32.png) [@OrcaChow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OrcaChow)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crossing-over-the-other-side-of-credibility/54531/44 "2001-02-27T01:09:54Z")

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> I still want James Randi, or someone, to infiltrate this sham and expose it. Tiny cameras to tape the whole thing, to compare with the heavily edited version we see.

Easy enough. Load up the audience with anti-Eddie plants who, when waiting for the show to start, mutter to each other about non-existent relatives and things that never happened.

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