# 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' - SPOILER **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 22, 2001, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186 "2001-01-22T00:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/21 "2001-01-23T22:24:52Z")
How many times do I have to say it? She can’t fly like a bird or an airplane; she can jump really high and far, but doing so as a mode of transportation would seriously drain her. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2001, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/22 "2001-01-23T23:22:18Z")
Space Vampire, why couldn’t Jen have her wish? It’s just a movie…and a new redeemed-by-her-sacrifice-Jen would be just the place to start the sequel. Either with a living Master Li (married to Shu Lien) or a spectral “Obi-wan” Master Li. I imagine we will find out what her wish was and if she got it when the sequel comes. ---
**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2001, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/23 "2001-01-24T03:05:30Z")
Another question: Jen came into tutelage of Jade Fox shortly after she first met Lo, right? She was 18 at the end of the film. She spent 10 years studying under Jade Fox, which means she was 8 when she first met, fought, fled, and fucked Lo. Hmm… Am I missing something in the chronology? ---
**Author:** ![Tiburon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e36b37/32.png) [@Tiburon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tiburon)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2001, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/24 "2001-01-24T03:30:38Z")
She was well over 10 when she met Lo. If you watch the scene where she leaps on the horse (she does this a few times) and also the scene where she comes upon the bandits scavenging through the things they have stolen, you can see her use the fighting techniques she learned from Jade Fox. Also, Jade is in the compartment (for lack of a better word) and is the one who tells Jen to stop playing with the comb for fear she’ll break it. Tibs. ---
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2001, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/25 "2001-01-24T03:59:41Z")
Why can’t her wish come true? Your reading is that her wish is for “for Li Mu Bai to come back to life and for everybody to live happily ever after.” Is that correct? Well, I can think of a few problems with that, namely 1)Jialong is dead. 2)Li Mu-Bai is dead. 3) The dead cannot come back to life. Maybe they can in supernatural movies, but I see no reason to view this as such. Forgive my smartass response, but I really can’t think of any other way to put it. ---
**Author:** ![Ace\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Ace\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace_Face)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2001, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/26 "2001-01-24T07:14:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Space Vampire \* > \*\*How many times do I have to say it? She can’t fly like a bird or an airplane; \*\* You can say it again if you like – but I used the word “leap”, not “fly.” > [@](#): > > \*\*she can jump really high and far, but doing so as a mode of transportation would seriously drain her. \*\* Now this you haven’t said before… She can fight multiple enemies for 10+ minutes, but using her speed for a short time to help save a friend would “drain” her? Anyway, my original point was a bit tongue-in-cheek anyway. I don’t really think she wanted him to die. As far as the ending goes, given her melancholy state (highlighted by the scene of her last night with the desert warrior) I think she dies. But I too liked the ambiguity of it. It’s very much in keeping with Jen’s enigmatic character. ---
**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2001, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/27 "2001-01-24T10:05:19Z")
Okay, so maybe I’m getting confused… I’ve had this same discussion a number of times. I’m going to withdraw for now, because I haven’t seen the movie for about six months (I’m so hip it’s actually physically painful) and people who’ve just seen it are bringing in details I can’t recall exactly. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/28 "2002-10-02T17:14:52Z")
_bump_ to answer a question in Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/29 "2002-10-02T18:25:59Z")
Thought this would be of interest to those who asked the question a year and a half ago 😉 Here is a listing of the novels and summaries of each, gives some interesting background to the movie… [http://owl.usc.edu/~hding/Movie/Ch/novels.html](http://owl.usc.edu/~hding/Movie/Ch/novels.html) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2002, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crouching-tiger-hidden-dragon-spoiler/51186/30 "2002-10-02T19:43:10Z")
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