# Crunchy Frog....Care to Make a Bet? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 18, 2001, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189 "2001-06-18T03:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/1 "2001-06-18T03:53:03Z")
Ok,\*\* Crunchy \*\* I’m willing to place my faith that THIS is the Cubs’ year up for a friendly series of wagers. Number One-The Cubs will outrank the Cardinals at year’s end. Number Two-The Cubs will make the playoffs. Number Three-The Cubs will make the World Series this year. Number Four-The Cubs will FINALLY win the World Series. So \*\* Crunchy,\*\* or \*\* Assclown of Evil, \*\* want to make a wager? Let’s make this interesting and let the SDMB decide what are prizes/punishments are going to be. [sub] Nothing involving nudity,you perverts. 🙂 [/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/2 "2001-06-18T04:04:36Z")
I will not bet on points one and two, as that is definitely possible. Hell, the Cubs managed to make the playoffs in '98, no reason they can’t do it again especially with Kerry Wood back in the starting rotation. However, I **will** bet on points 3 and 4. The Cubs will not make, and therefore will not win, the World Series. I’m all for letting the Dopers pick the bet, within reason of course. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/3 "2001-06-18T04:06:27Z")
Aw what the hell, I’ll put my faith in the Cards and bet on all 4 points. So Dopers, what’ll the wagers be? ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/4 "2001-06-18T04:25:37Z")
well, to start with I think the loser should forever have to acknowledge that their baseball knowledge is nothing compared to that of the winner. the loser (let’s just call the loser “ **Crunchy Frog** ” from here on in, for clarity’s sake) should freely and cheerfully admit that the winner ( **hardygrrl** , ibid.) is their superior in all things baseball. And Crunchy should volunteer this information every time the topic of baseball comes up-- e.g. “You’re right, **White Lightning** , the Red Sox certainly will win the upcoming 2003 World Series, but you’ve also gotta remember that whatever hardygrrl’s opinion is on this matter, it is surely worth more than mine.” Not as the complete wager, just as a sort of inherent stakes to the bet. If you like. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/5 "2001-06-18T04:36:59Z")
Well, that’s a suggestion, but I don’t see how this affects one’s baseball knowledge. Besides which, I refuse to admit that **hardygrrl** may know more about the Cardinals, Stan Musial, Ozzie Smith, Rogers Horsnby, etc. Hell, I wonder if **hardygrrl** would even know who Rube Waddell was. (No, he wasn’t a Cardinal.) Besdies, **WL** , you seem to be a Red Sox fan and just looking to vent your frustration on a fan of a team that’s won a World Series or 9. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/6 "2001-06-18T04:41:13Z")
Hey, I’ll admit Crunchy can kick my ass in terms of baseball knowledge. 🙂 Maybe a sig line-any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/7 "2001-06-18T12:38:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \* > \*\*Well, that’s a suggestion, but I don’t see how this affects one’s baseball knowledge. Besides which, I refuse to admit that **hardygrrl** may know more about the Cardinals, Stan Musial, Ozzie Smith, Rogers Horsnby, etc. > \*\* Well, she should know they all started their careers after the last Cubs WS champs… heck, I think the RED SOX have won the Series like 4 times since the Cubs - and the Yankess won ALL theirs - then again, when the Cubs won, it was, what, WS #4? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/8 "2001-06-18T17:22:25Z")
Given that both the Red Sox _and_ the Cubs are currently in first place, one might assume there would be some possibility of a Bosox/Cubbies World Series. Which would mean that _one of those two teams would **have** to win._ Now, we know this outcome would violate the Fundamental Laws That Govern The Universe, much like exceeding the speed of light. (And anyone who does not believe this did not watch game six of the 1986 World Series.) Therefore, I will make a bet: In the unlikely event of a Red Sox/Cubs World Series, _a giant asteriod will smash into the Earth and thus prevent either team from winning._ ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/9 "2001-06-18T22:10:17Z")
So **hardygrrl** , when you posted this, did you know that JD Drew had broke his hand in yesterday’s game? Cuz I just found out about a half hour ago. ☹ Oh, well, I’ll still take the bet. We still need to know what the bet is, though. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/10 "2001-06-18T22:43:53Z")
Who said the White Sox aren’t good for anything? ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2001, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/11 "2001-06-18T23:30:25Z")
\*\* OK Dopers…\*\* Someone come up with a series of punishments/prizes here! I’m partial to… Whoever wins gets to have a sig line acknowledging their team’s greatness;the loser must have a sig line saying the winner is always right. The loser must send the winner a picture wearing a baseball hat of the winning team-without any funny faces/eye rolling,etc. Come on …we have some great creative minds here…any ideas? [sub] Crunchy-get ready to have a blue Cubs hat on come October 🙂 [/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/12 "2001-06-19T00:10:10Z")
\*\*Number One-The Cubs will outrank the Cardinals at year’s end. Number Two-The Cubs will make the playoffs. Number Three-The Cubs will make the World Series this year. Number Four-The Cubs will FINALLY win the World Series.\*\* Is there going to be a different bet for each of these? Because the last three are possible (theoretically) even if I win Number One and the Cards finish with a better record. What if we split? I can win #1, 3 and 4, but still lose the bet on #2. Or I can lose the bet on #1&2, but still win #3&4. Any suggestions then? ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/13 "2001-06-19T01:21:16Z")
Good point Crunchy…how about Number One-the sig line Number Two-the hat Now for Numbers Three and Four-any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Britt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Britt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Britt)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/14 "2001-06-19T03:54:12Z")
I’m routing for you Crunchy of course all four will be false. St Louis will make the wild card then beat the cubs in the NL pennant and then take the World Series in six from the Twins. World peace and a new labor agreement will be in place the day after. As for what the bets are for how about having to wear the cap of the opposing team next season, or part there of depending on how correct each of you is. I hope your medical insurance is paid up 🙂 PS enjoyed todays game 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/15 "2001-06-19T04:09:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Britt \* > \*\*I’m routing for you Crunchy of course all four will be false. St Louis will make the wild card then beat the cubs in the NL pennant \*\* Thanks **Britt** , but for all four to be false, the _Cubs_ will have to be the wild card team, as the Cards repeat as NL Central champs. \*\* [/quote] As for what the bets are for how about having to wear the cap of the opposing team next season, or part there of depending on how correct each of you is. \*\* [/quote] **hardygrrl’s** is Chicago and I’m in St. Louis. There’s no way to verify that either is holding up their end of the bet. And I’ll be up front about it right now and admit I would NOT wear a Cubs hat in favor of my McGwire cap. Especially in St Louis. At a Cards game. \*\* > [@](#): > > PS enjoyed todays game 🙂 \*\* So did I. 😃 [sub]For those wondering, Cards beat the Cubs 6-2 thanks to McGwire’s 3-run homer and Edmonds’ 2-run shot. Sosa went yard also, but his only counted for 1.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Britt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Britt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Britt)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/16 "2001-06-19T04:29:40Z")
Hmm perhaps a rule interpritation is called for now where is the umpire. The endd of the year means well the **end** of the **year** winning in the regular seanson just doesn’t do it IMHO. Verification is easily obtained via the medical records, given that this does not appear to be an option how about a signed ball per question (you have to get them from cubs plays she from the Cardinals), though this could get expensive. **Crunchy** also forgot to mention a homer by Eric Young for the cubs. ---
**Author:** ![Britt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Britt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Britt)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/17 "2001-06-19T04:31:55Z")
ugg I can not believe that second sentence! ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/18 "2001-06-19T04:37:32Z")
{b] hardygrrl clarifies \*\* The hat would only be worn for the picture taking. After that it’s yours to do with as you wish. Autographed baseballs? Nahh…easily faked and like Crunchy would give one up? But if the Cubs win the Series…Crunchy has to wear a Cubs hat to a Cubs/Cards game. In St Louis. And prove it. So Crunchy…you in? ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/19 "2001-06-19T04:58:02Z")
Well, I would, since I would pretty much blend in during a Cubs/Cards game. During those series, we get a lot of Cb fans here. The problem would be by next year I have no idea if I’ll get tickets for those games or be able to work it around my work schedule. How about we think of something a little more immediate? And as for the autographed balls - I collect autographed balls, **Britt** , I can’t bear to part with them once I get one. ---
**Author:** ![Winnowill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/4491bb/32.png) [@Winnowill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnowill)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2001, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/20 "2001-06-19T05:22:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \* > \*\*Hell, I wonder if **hardygrrl** would even know who Rube Waddell was. (No, he wasn’t a Cardinal.) > \*\* [sub]Crunchy - **I** know who he was…[/sub] and I didn’t have to look it up, neither! 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189.md?page=2)