# Crunchy Frog....Care to Make a Bet? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 18, 2001, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189 "2001-06-18T03:53:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/41 "2001-08-25T02:16:18Z")
Just one serious picture [sub]the pain, the pain[/sub] and then the funs begins… Damn it Crunchy, _if_ you win, you’re posting the picture. I will not have the picture on my webpage. A picture of me wearing a replica WWF Championship belt, maybe, but not a Cards hat. [sub]It’s a wrestling page, dammit![/sub] BTW…not only am I hoping LaRussa makes his usual bad call re Benes, I’m thinking of ways to torture the hat, _just in case_. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/42 "2001-08-25T02:21:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hardygrrl \* > \*\*I’m thinking of ways to torture the hat, _just in case_. \*\* Or, as we realists, would say, you’re planning for the inevitable. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/43 "2001-08-25T02:32:11Z")
You just keep thinking that way. I have faith. [sub]and bite me[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/44 "2001-08-25T04:44:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \* > Hell, I wonder if **hardygrrl** would even know who Rube Waddell was. (No, he wasn’t a Cardinal.) Pitcher immediately springs to mind. Called Rube because he was about as smart as a baseball. New York Giants? Won 30 games the year they won 40? I have it in the back of my mind that someone did that. Or did Rube Marquard pitch for the Giants with Christy Matthewson? I need sleep. I also need to review my Conlon Collection. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/45 "2001-08-25T04:57:05Z")
Rube Waddell was a pitcher, played most notably for the Philadelphia A’s, most games he ever won in a season was 27. You’re right about the reason he got his name though, he wasn’t going to be a Mensa member by any stretch. There are stories that Rube Waddell would be distracted by opposing batters when the batters held up shiny objects. He loved fire trucks and had to be physically restrained from leaving the field during the game if he heard one. Rube Marquard pitched for the Giants, but never won 30 games (won a career-hihg 26 in 1912). He got his name (IIRC) because his pitching style reminded people of Waddell, not because of any mental deficiencies on his part. I don’t know about anyone winning 30 games while the team only won 40, but the 1901 NY Giants only won 52 games and 20 of the wins went to Christy Mathewson. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/46 "2001-08-25T07:12:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \* > \*\*BTW, after a phone call, I want this clarified and written down for all to see. > > Regarding the “picture wearing the hat” bet for Part 2: > The hat must be worn _on the head_ of the losing party. The hat must be worn facing the proper direction, the logo of the winner’s team fully visible. It must be a serious, respectful picture of the hat, and the picture needs to be posted on the Web for all to see. > > That said: Only one serious picture is required to fulfill the requirements of the bet. What the losing party does with the winner’s hat and remaining pictures left on the roll of film is purely up to the losing party. Whether or not these pictures will be posted on the web for all to see along with the required photo is totally up to the descretion of the losing party. > > Any other possible clarification needed on any of the other bets? \*\* So, if I understand correctly, **if you win** , one picture of the hat on my head. The rest can be pictures of me using the hat as an ashtray, running over it with a Zamboni, maybe a picture of it on my ass? [sub]Nah, you’d like that, wouldn’t you?[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/47 "2001-08-25T17:34:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \* > \*\* > I don’t know about anyone winning 30 games while the team only won 40, but the 1901 NY Giants only won 52 games and 20 of the wins went to Christy Mathewson. \*\* IIRC the highest percentage of wins since 1900 by a single pitcher was when Steve Carlton won 27 for a pathetic Phillies team that won 59. Think it was 27-9, 1.98, 310K c. 1972. BTW, what scrub team traded him away? ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2001, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/48 "2001-08-25T20:16:06Z")
Series tied, one all…after a tight ninth inning, the glorious **Cubs** won. \ Gee, you can _smell_ **Crunchy** pouting. Especially after the message I left on his answering machine, hehehehehe. **hardygrrl** , still keeping the faith… ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2001, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/49 "2001-08-26T23:58:51Z")
**Update** Cubs took the series after a two hr game by Sosa today. Now to get through the Astros… BTW, if/when I win, I’ll post the picture here for all to see. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/50 "2001-08-27T00:31:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lurkernomore \* > BTW, what scrub team traded him [Carlton] away? My first guess was the Mets, but they’re the team he stunk for in 1986, right? I don’t remember. I really should, to. And I’m not going to look this one up to look smart (done so before for other trivia threads). This just in. Cardinals. And **hardygrrl** , just wait until the Cubs play the Braves. Then Crunchy Frog will be able to prematurely cheer for three days:D [sub]Thanks for refreshing my memory, Dave.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/51 "2001-08-27T01:30:45Z")
**’punha** The Cubs will prevail. I have faith. [sub]I’d tell you to bite me too, but why make your day? ;)[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/52 "2001-08-27T01:33:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hardygrrl \* > **’punha** > > The Cubs will prevail. I have faith. Did you have faith back a few years aho when they played the Braves in the first round and got swept?🙂 > [@](#): > > I’d tell you to bite me too, but why make your day? 😉 I’ll just let the Cubs do the biting:) ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/53 "2001-08-27T02:47:35Z")
Like I said before, **'punha** my pet, I’ve been a Cubs fan for 28 years. I’m eternally faithful and optimistic. Just because we gave you Maddux (that trade STILL pisses me off) is no reason to mock the Cubbies. You should be grateful. [sub]and bite me, Braves fan[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![kinoons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@kinoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kinoons)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/54 "2001-08-27T03:06:13Z")
Hea, as long as the Cubbies can keep winning maybe I’ll actually have a reason to watch baseball in Sept. This is the first time I can recall in my 10 years or so of being a Cubs fan that I’ve really had something to cheer about and look forward to Go Cubs go! ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/55 "2001-08-27T11:54:28Z")
Thanks **kinoons** ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/56 "2001-09-26T22:52:47Z")
From the OP, who recently called me claiming that the Cards would have to succeed in winning the World Series in order for her to have to owe on the full 4 parts of the bet: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hardygrrl \* > \*\*Number One-The Cubs will outrank the Cardinals at year’s end. > > Number Two-The Cubs will make the playoffs. > > Number Three-The Cubs will make the World Series this year. > > Number Four-The Cubs will FINALLY win the World Series.\*\* Ok, **hardygrrl** , as you can see, the bet revolves solely around how the Cubs perform. The only part involving the Cards is whether the Cards have a better record than the Cubs or not. As far as the bet goes, I made no claims that the Cards would make the playoffs, go to the series or win the series. The bet was that the _Cubs_ would do these things, and has nothing to do with the Cardinals (except for #1). Just a bump since on the phone you were talking about welching out on me. To recap what the bets are: Number One - the loser must use a sig line written by the winner. Let’s put a time limit on this, shall we? Until the end of the post-season? Number Two - respectful picture wearing the other team’s hat Number Three - the loser must write an OP singing the praises of the winner’s team. And no sarcasm or jokes or rolling eyed smilies. Number Four - the loser takes out a ad in the classified section of the winner’s hometown newspaper admitting the error of their ways and proclaiming the winner’s greatness. You’re gonna owe up on all 4 counts, lady. I hope you enjoy your new hat and I’ll be e-mailing you the contact information for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch presently. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Big\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8baadc/32.png) [@The\_Big\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Big_Cheese)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/57 "2001-09-26T23:11:33Z")
**hardygrrl** , Don’t **EVER** bet on the Cubs. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/58 "2001-09-26T23:57:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Crunchy Frog \* > > You’re gonna owe up on all 4 counts, lady. **Crunchy, Crunchy, Crunchy…** You called me a lady? And after having talked to me on the phone more than once? hehehehehehehehehehehe Ok, I’ll admit it, I bought a Cards hat, _just in case_. ---
**Author:** ![Nicklz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nicklz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicklz)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/59 "2001-09-27T00:22:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > And **hardygrrl** , just wait until the Cubs play the Braves. Then Crunchy Frog will be able to prematurely cheer for three days:D **Hardygrrl** Well, so will I. haha 😃 You do know the Braves are also in a penant race, sorry. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see the Cubbies get to the playoffs, and if the Braves weren’t going all the way this year I’d like to see Chicago do it. _oh by the way thanks for Maddux his been great, tell us when your ready to trade Sosa_ ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2001, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189/60 "2001-09-27T01:40:30Z")
Bite me, **Nicklz** 🙂 If it’s not **Crunchy Frog** rubbing salt in the gaping Maddux wound…and now here comes **Nicklz** to spit lemon juice in it. :😭: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crunchy-frog-care-to-make-a-bet/69189.md?page=4)