# Crusader Kings II: Kinslayer question

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**Created:** [January 4, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-kinslayer-question/776337 "2017-01-04T21:37:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2017, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-kinslayer-question/776337/1 "2017-01-04T21:37:54Z")

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You gain the ‘Kinslayer’ trait for having a successful murder plot discovered of a close relative. How close are we talking here? I can’t seem to find an answer on Reddit or the Paradox forums.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-kinslayer-question/776337/2 "2017-01-05T03:54:09Z")

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… need answer fast? 😃

Edit:

As per the wiki, it seems that the answer is “any member of your dynasty,” presumably including characters who joined the dynasty through marriage or adoption. There are a few loopholes you can use to your advantage.

[http://www.ckiiwiki.com/index.php?search=kinslayer&title=Special:Search&fulltext=Search&searchToken=dnzauh16r5io9viqf4o8hp4kd](http://www.ckiiwiki.com/index.php?search=kinslayer&title=Special:Search&fulltext=Search&searchToken=dnzauh16r5io9viqf4o8hp4kd)

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-kinslayer-question/776337/3 "2017-01-05T15:25:52Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> … need answer fast? 😃
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> Edit:
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> As per the wiki, it seems that the answer is “any member of your dynasty,” presumably including characters who joined the dynasty through marriage or adoption. There are a few loopholes you can use to your advantage.
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> [http://www.ckiiwiki.com/index.php?search=kinslayer&title=Special:Search&fulltext=Search&searchToken=dnzauh16r5io9viqf4o8hp4kd](http://www.ckiiwiki.com/index.php?search=kinslayer&title=Special:Search&fulltext=Search&searchToken=dnzauh16r5io9viqf4o8hp4kd)

Yeah, but that’s not entirely correct, because you can get it for killing off your bastard sons or brothers, who aren’t of your dynasty.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-kinslayer-question/776337/4 "2017-01-06T22:56:10Z")

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I believe they are considered members of your dynasty, even though they may not take your dynastic name.