# Crusader Kings II - succession game - Sword of Islam **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 14, 2013, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977 "2013-06-14T08:49:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/81 "2013-07-03T06:07:21Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > I gave away most of my desmene. I built a city that was of the wrong desmene type (I still don’t know what that means) and it was pulling in 27 gold, which was really nice. It let me fund lots of construction projects. As a feudal lord, you can only hold castles without penalty. If you own any cities or bishropics you get the “wrong holding type” message, indicating that you should give them away. A muslim leader, though, can also hold mosques without getting the message; I believe there is even piety bonus for owning a mosque. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/82 "2013-07-03T09:18:47Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > As a feudal lord, you can only hold castles without penalty. If you own any cities or bishropics you get the “wrong holding type” message, indicating that you should give them away. A muslim leader, though, can also hold mosques without getting the message; I believe there is even piety bonus for owning a mosque. Indeed. And since piety is very useful for muslims (it’s used to attack neighbours without CB, and to change laws, can’t remember if there’s anything else), that they produce quite a lot of troops and money) holding on mosques is a good idea. I had upgraded one somewhere and it was my primary source of income. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/83 "2013-07-03T13:58:14Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > As a feudal lord, you can only hold castles without penalty. If you own any cities or bishropics you get the “wrong holding type” message, indicating that you should give them away. A muslim leader, though, can also hold mosques without getting the message; I believe there is even piety bonus for owning a mosque. Ah, thanks. Good to know. Man, there are still some fundamental things I don’t know about this game. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/84 "2013-07-03T22:33:11Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Wow, the dynastic changes pass a lot more quickly than I orignally thought they would. . Did you get the save? And if so, could you post a screenshot of the situation at the beginning of your reign? Because I’m a bit lost, now.. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/85 "2013-07-04T07:36:08Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > Did you get the save? And if so, could you post a screenshot of the situation at the beginning of your reign? Because I’m a bit lost, now.. Nope, not yet. I verified the email address in my profile and checked my spam folder. Can you resend it, LOUNE? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/86 "2013-07-04T16:51:50Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Nope, not yet. I verified the email address in my profile and checked my spam folder. Can you resend it, LOUNE? Sending now. I couldn’t find a list of folks that were next, and I thought **Terminus Est** was next, so I shot him a PM, asking him if that was the case). Emailing file over now. ETA: I am an idiot. Remember how I said I never saved the game? Yeah. I never saved it. I’ll forward the file over to Mr. **Squid**. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/87 "2013-07-04T19:26:45Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > I thought **Terminus Est** was next, so I shot him a PM, asking him if that was the case). Oh, I seem to have missed this, so I never replied. Anyway, you now know who’s next. Let’s see those Christian infidels kicked off the peninsula for good! ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/88 "2013-07-08T01:04:38Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Nope, not yet. I verified the email address in my profile and checked my spam folder. Can you resend it, LOUNE? It’s not like I’d look like i’m harassing you but…well I’m harassing you. Neithet thread/game is active, for some reason, and I’m checking about three time/day. Yes, I know, that’s ludicrous, but I want to know how things evolve. It’s like a an addiction to a TV serie. Did you get the file? ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/89 "2013-07-08T16:40:30Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > It’s not like I’d look like i’m harassing you but…well I’m harassing you. Neithet thread/game is active, for some reason, and I’m checking about three time/day. Yes, I know, that’s ludicrous, but I want to know how things evolve. It’s like a an addiction to a TV serie. Did you get the file? Hey, sorry. I finally got the file, although it was reset to the beginning of LOUNE’s reign. I’ll post an update after work. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/90 "2013-07-08T16:53:38Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Hey, sorry. I finally got the file, although it was reset to the beginning of LOUNE’s reign. So, you’re going to play over **Least Original User Name Ever** ’s reign?? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/91 "2013-07-08T17:31:55Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > So, you’re going to play over **Least Original User Name Ever** ’s reign?? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/92 "2013-07-08T23:39:10Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > Yes. I don’t get it. You had absolutely no save of your reign? Nor during it, nor at the time of your “first death”, not at the time of your “second death”? Why didn’t you just play it over again? ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/93 "2013-07-09T03:50:26Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > I don’t get it. You had absolutely no save of your reign? Nor during it, nor at the time of your “first death”, not at the time of your “second death”? Why didn’t you just play it over again? This is correct. I had no save of my reign at all. I didn’t play it over again because I thought I had played it to completion and I didn’t want to take more time getting it into the next person’s hands. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/94 "2013-07-09T05:47:24Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > This is correct. I had no save of my reign at all. I didn’t play it over again because I thought I had played it to completion and I didn’t want to take more time getting it into the next person’s hands. Well, I’m next in line for both games (Spain and Granada) and of course that will be right when I’ll have less time to play. Maybe you could play again after **Boozahol Squid** before I take my turn? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2013, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/95 "2013-07-19T04:57:39Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Hey, sorry. I finally got the file, although it was reset to the beginning of LOUNE’s reign. I’ll post an update after work. It’s been 10 days. Did you play the game? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2013, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977/96 "2013-07-29T12:15:42Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > This is correct. I had no save of my reign at all. I didn’t play it over again because I thought I had played it to completion and I didn’t want to take more time getting it into the next person’s hands. No answer from **Boozahol** here or in PM. Do you still have the save at the beginning (or end) of your turn, \*\*Least Original User Name Ever \*\*? Would you replay your reign? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crusader-kings-ii-succession-game-sword-of-islam/660977.md?page=4)