# Cruz drops out of the race

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 4, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852 "2016-05-04T04:26:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/61 "2016-05-04T17:45:14Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> I’m changing my name to “Nonov D. Aboff.” 😃

Meanwhile, in California’s Senate primary (not-particularly-well-known-fact: even if a candidate gets a majority of the Primary vote, the top two advance to the November runoff), one of the Democratic candidates is President Cristina Grappo, and from the looks of things, that’s her real name.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/62 "2016-05-04T17:49:09Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> But…but…he was, like, all ordained and anointed and stuff. He was sure of it. His old man was sure. Even his wife was sure.  
> ['Here am I Lord, use me’: Ted Cruz's dad says Holy Ghost authorized White House run - Raw Story](http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/here-am-i-lord-use-me-ted-cruzs-dad-says-holy-ghost-authorized-white-house-run/)
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> How could angels get it so wrong?

Huckabee accidentally forwarded the message to Cruz.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/63 "2016-05-04T18:02:25Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Not everyone. Horrible as President Cruz would have been, I still think President Trump would be worse.

No way… your profile says you live in NY… you don’t hear the blithering stupidity that routinely belches forth from the mouths Cruz and the rest of his Texas tea party bottom feeders, including but not limited to Greg Abbott, Ken Paxton, Dan Patrick, Louie Gohmert and Pete Sessions.

Trump’s a blowhard and obnoxious, but doesn’t seem to be an ideological zealot like Cruz, who I feel would let the country burn before betraying his political principles. Trump at least seems like he might be somewhat pragmatic when down to the actual business of governing.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/64 "2016-05-04T18:16:46Z")

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> [@Salvor](#):
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> I guess there is strong resignation/pressure behind the scenes to run with Trump.  
> The party above principles crowd wins.

Or maybe he just saw the writing on the wall. Kasich has never been a contender, for even one day, this entire race. Once Cruz dropped out, the idea of a contested convention faded away. Donald will hit his number. There’s nothing else to contest. Why go on punching the wall?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/65 "2016-05-04T19:59:34Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> Trump’s a blowhard and obnoxious, but doesn’t seem to be an ideological zealot like Cruz, who I feel would let the country burn before betraying his political principles. Trump at least seems like he might be somewhat pragmatic when down to the actual business of governing.

It’s really hard to make a choice between Trump and Cruz. Yes, Cruz is a distasteful immoral ideological extremist who would have been such an unprecedented disaster as president that it’s astounding his campaign ever got any traction. But the same can be said of Trump for entirely different reasons. Trump is a self-serving conniving attention-seeker, he’s pathologically insecure, he’s dumb as a brick, and if he isn’t an ideological zealot, it’s only because he has no discernible principles or values. The most amazing thing about his candidacy is how devoid it is of policy or substance, consisting basically of bumper sticker slogans designed to fire up ignorant bigots with shallow demagoguery. If there’s anything there that even hints at a chance for a successful presidency, it’s never been visible.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/66 "2016-05-04T21:16:18Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Or maybe he just saw the writing on the wall. Kasich has never been a contender, for even one day, this entire race. Once Cruz dropped out, the idea of a contested convention faded away. Donald will hit his number. There’s nothing else to contest. Why go on punching the wall?

To be clear, the idea of a contested convention faded away when Trump was declared the winner of Indiana, not when Cruz withdrew.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/67 "2016-05-04T21:31:29Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not only has she had the shortest VP run in history, she is the only person who has ever lost the same Presidential race _twice_.

Carly would smile and answer you with two words:

"Direct Deposit.’ 😃

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> That concession speech was guns blazing. Even though the banner on CNN below him was giving a major spoiler I didn’t believe it until he got to the last few lines. I don’t think this is a guy who is going to fade into the background - I think his Senate colleagues better be ready for future hijinks.

[…within limits…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VrFV5r8cs0)

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/68 "2016-05-04T21:35:04Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not only has she had the shortest VP run in history, she is the only person who has ever lost the same Presidential race _twice_.
> 
> Hey, Carly! “World’s Biggest Loser” called. They’ve cancelled this year’s show - you can come in and pick up your trophy any time.

It’s like when someone has been unemployed for years and finally gets a job - and the company folds a week later.  
Couldn’t happen to a nicer person.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/69 "2016-05-04T21:37:18Z")

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> [@Salvor](#):
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> I guess there is strong resignation/pressure behind the scenes to run with Trump.  
> The party above principles crowd wins.

The party above principles (or country) has been in charge for 8 years now. So no surprise.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/70 "2016-05-04T21:40:52Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Did many of you hear the discussion (so to speak) between Cruz and a group of Indiana citizens? It hurt. It severely hurt.
> 
> Cruz was trying to talk, and they wouldn’t have it.
> 
> He’d say something general, like, “What do you need?” and they shot back, “You’ll find out tomorrow. Indiana don’t want you.”
> 
> Trump tried to make it a conversation. "The question everyone here should ask … "
> 
> “Are you Canadian?”
> 
> It was the only time this whole campaign I actually felt sympathy for the man. He was trying to engage, and got snuffed. And this is the heartland that he needed to make his own. When Indiana won’t even talk to you, you can’t be much of a Republican.
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> I wonder if that might have been the moment, in Cruz’ personal mind and experience, when he knew he was done.

That Cruz’s problem. If it were Trump he’d get some nearby supporters to beat these people up.

Shucks, though. I could use a new TV, and if my California airwaves were full of Trump and Cruz ads I’d surely put my foot through the one I have.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/71 "2016-05-04T22:42:17Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Or maybe he just saw the writing on the wall. . . . Why go on punching the wall?

[Something there is that doesn’t love a wall.](http://www.bartleby.com/104/64.html)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/72 "2016-05-04T23:34:27Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> The party above principles (or country) has been in charge for 8 years now. So no surprise.

1. Nixon.
2. Bush/Cheney/Rove.

Please, lecture me some more about principles.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/73 "2016-05-04T23:39:29Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> I think about that once in a while when CNN shows the glamour shots of candidates. Why don’t they do what newspapers do? Use photos that show the candidate with their head at an odd angle, mouth open in such a way that they appear to be trying to expel a half swallowed burrito, and every nose hair lovingly detailed in grainy black and white?

Check out MSNBC’s front page. As far as I can tell, they’re always in black and white, and generally unflattering of their subjects, who at this point are overwhelmingly the candidates.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/74 "2016-05-04T23:51:20Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> 1. Nixon.
> 2. Bush/Cheney/Rove.
> 
> Please, lecture me some more about principles.

:rolleyes:  
He wasn’t addressing you, one sentence isn’t a lecture, and you have no idea which party he’s talking about. Hope you wear a mouthguard when you knee jerk like that.

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**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/75 "2016-05-05T00:17:11Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not only has she had the shortest VP run in history, she is the only person who has ever lost the same Presidential race _twice_.
> 
> Hey, Carly! “World’s Biggest Loser” called. They’ve cancelled this year’s show - you can come in and pick up your trophy any time.

She was brought on to do the layoffs.

(I couldn’t believe that no losing ticket had a VP that had earlier lost the primary, but I think this might actually be true! She can win some trivia contests with this.)

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/76 "2016-05-05T00:18:58Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> :rolleyes:  
> He wasn’t addressing you, one sentence isn’t a lecture, and you have no idea which party he’s talking about. Hope you wear a mouthguard when you knee jerk like that.

“The party that has been in power for 8 years?” I don’t know what country you come from, but to me as an American that clearly implies the Democratic party. If he had said ‘4 years,’ the point would be debatable.

Shame on me for horning in on a public discussion. I can see and point out hypocrisy as well as anyone else.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/77 "2016-05-05T02:03:15Z")

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Nm

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/78 "2016-05-05T05:03:58Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The most amazing thing about his candidacy is how devoid it is of policy or substance, consisting basically of bumper sticker slogans designed to fire up ignorant bigots with shallow demagoguery. If there’s anything there that even hints at a chance for a successful presidency, it’s never been visible.

Yeah, he is the king of the bare assertion. If elected, I guess he will be the “because I said so” president.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/79 "2016-05-05T15:30:45Z")

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Under the original constitution that Cruz was fervently loyal to, he would have been ineligible to be President. It’s good to see him come to his senses and realize what a hypocrite he was.

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cruz-drops-out-of-the-race/753852/80 "2016-05-05T15:55:56Z")

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> [@nani](#):
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> She was brought on to do the layoffs.
> 
> (I couldn’t believe that no losing ticket had a VP that had earlier lost the primary, but I think this might actually be true! She can win some trivia contests with this.)

Her new motto should be:

“Carly Fiorina! Good for something!”

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