# Cry babies who quit online backgammon when they start to lose **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 14, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792 "2012-02-14T04:53:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/81 "2012-02-17T18:24:33Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Who’s mad? Gotta admit, it’s kinda fun, being able to point out in detail that someone who sure _seemed_ like a schmuck has totally _proven_ he’s a schmuck. I guess I’ll just smile and nod my head in agreement. So… _smiles and nods his head in agreement_ > [@](#): > > Nothing! You’ve punk’d yourself like a pro. My congratulations. _smiles and nods his head in agreement_ > [@Frylock](#): > > Here you said you “most certainly don’t do it now.” But why not? If you don’t feel bad about doing it then, why don’t you do it now? Because I don’t care so much about online rankings anymore.\* (\*Except on CoD. I hate when my kill ratio gets screwed up because I keep getting killed by n00bs randomly throwing grenades into the sky from half way across the map.) ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/82 "2012-02-17T18:24:50Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > So whatchu’ gonna do about it. I’d lose respect for you, if I had any left to lose. So…nothing, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/83 "2012-02-17T18:26:08Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Because I don’t care so much about online rankings anymore. Offering this explanation implies that if you _did_ care, you believe you would be justified in continuing to disconnect to avoid losses. Is that correct? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/84 "2012-02-17T18:39:28Z")
Hey, if the President does it, it’s not illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/85 "2012-02-17T19:09:12Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > I’d lose respect for you, if I had any left to lose. So…nothing, I guess. Well, you can rest assured that I won’t lose any sleep over the fact that someone on the internet whom I don’t know nor remember interacting with, this time excluded, loses some amount of her non-existent respect for me. > [@Frylock](#): > > Offering this explanation implies that if you _did_ care, you believe you would be justified in continuing to disconnect to avoid losses. Is that correct? Ummm, yeah. If I did care, I probably would. But I don’t care anymore, so I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/86 "2012-02-17T19:29:40Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Well, you can rest assured that I won’t lose any sleep over the fact that someone on the internet whom I don’t know nor remember interacting with, this time excluded, loses some amount of her non-existent respect for me. Don’t ask the question if you can’t handle the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/87 "2012-02-17T20:28:23Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Ummm, yeah. If I did care, I probably would. But I don’t care anymore, so I don’t. You’re telling me you _would_ do it but what I asked is do you think you’d be _justified_ in doing it. Do you? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/88 "2012-02-17T20:32:26Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Oh, I’m not too concerned over things I did years ago online. I probably did worse things which, unfortunately, I’ve long since forgotten. You guys and gals can be mad about it, though. I’ll forget about it all the same in a few weeks time anyway. And, for what it’s worth, I’m really not sorry about it (though I most certainly don’t do it now), especially not to the point I feel any guilt or remorse. So whatchu’ gonna do about it. Ahhh… as a neighbor says about her thoughtless asshole brother: “Of course he doesn’t feel guilty – he’s unencumbered by self-reflection.” ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/89 "2012-02-17T20:57:04Z")
No one will ever finish a game of Monopoly with me because I’ll always just buy up all the houses. There are a finite number of houses in the game, and if you own them all and never free any up by converting them to hotels, no one else can build anything. Some think that’s dirty pool, but I consider it a brilliant strategy. They’re just mad they didn’t think of it first. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/90 "2012-02-17T21:48:20Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > No one will ever finish a game of Monopoly with me because I’ll always just buy up all the houses. There are a finite number of houses in the game, and if you own them all and never free any up by converting them to hotels, no one else can build anything. > > Some think that’s dirty pool, but I consider it a brilliant strategy. They’re just mad they didn’t think of it first. Wouldn’t bother me-- I’d just say “OK, buying houses for the Green Color Group”, pay my money and place tic-tacs on the properties. Now, if you said my houses have to be square and red, and the game was basically over, THEN you’d be a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/91 "2012-02-17T22:03:40Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Wouldn’t bother me-- I’d just say “OK, buying houses for the Green Color Group”, pay my money and place tic-tacs on the properties. > > Now, if you said my houses have to be square and red, and the game was basically over, THEN you’d be a dick. It’s a rule of Monopoly–the houses are limited to those that came in the box. To use tic tacs you would have to agree together to a house rule prior to beginning the game. Buying all the houses and not building hotels is a standard tactic. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/92 "2012-02-17T22:05:03Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Some think that’s dirty pool, but I consider it a brilliant strategy. They’re just mad they didn’t think of it first. It’s in the official rules: “When the Bank has no houses to sell, players wishing to build must wait for some player to return or sell their houses to the Bank before building. If there are a limited number of houses and hotels available and two or more players wish to buy more than the Bank has, the houses or hotels must be sold at auction to the highest bidder.” It’s a totally valid strategy, and if people want to play a variant, they should negotiate that rule change in advance. Although, it’s also an interesting example of how two people can still play a game together even if they possess different interpretations of what the rules are … . ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/93 "2012-02-17T23:23:25Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > If I did care, I probably would. But I don’t care anymore, so I don’t. So you’ve stopped being an ordinary asshole in order to become a lazy asshole. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/94 "2012-02-17T23:52:08Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I was actually able to do “Deviated” on my first play with some random player about 2 weeks ago. > > I’m still waiting for his second move. :rolleyes: > > Then there’s the game where we were playing pretty close, using common words, then at the end of it he comes out with “Axcite”, “Eikon”, and “Ramies”. :rolleyes: I sometimes resign games like that when I can tell the other person is cheating. If you start out not being able to make more than four letter words, then all of a sudden you bust out ones that fill the board and are completely obscure, well, I’ll go ahead and give you what you wanted in the first place… an easy win. Because I’m not wasting my time with someone who cheats. ---
**Author:** ![antonio107](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@antonio107](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antonio107)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/95 "2012-02-17T23:55:02Z")
Backgammon cheaters _and_ Johan Huizinga? This thread is a total nostalgia trip back to grad school! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/96 "2012-02-18T00:23:21Z")
> [@Michael\_Ellis](#): > > Holy shit who gives a fuck you dumbass it’s fucking online backgammon. > > I can’t possibly imagine anyone lamer than the OP if they aren’t anime-obsessed obese furry shut-ins. Sounds like a failure of imagination. Especially if your lameness metric is based entirely on having interests that differ from yours. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/97 "2012-02-18T02:00:38Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > It’s in the official rules: > > “When the Bank has no houses to sell, players wishing to build must wait for some player to return or sell their houses to the Bank before building. If there are a limited number of houses and hotels available and two or more players wish to buy more than the Bank has, the houses or hotels must be sold at auction to the highest bidder.” That’s true - those are the official rules, and always have been. > [@](#): > > It’s a totally valid strategy, and if people want to play a variant, they should negotiate that rule change in advance. However, even though I’ve been aware for decades not only that these rules exist, and that in serious Monopoly competition, the official rules are THE rules, I’ve never in my life, in hundreds of games of Monopoly, played with anyone who took this rule seriously. Ditto the related rule that says you’ve got to have four houses before you have a hotel, that you can’t just go directly from getting a monopoly to building hotels in one fell swoop if you’ve got the cash. And I’m sure ditto a number of other rules. I think with a game like Monopoly, you’ve got to know who you’re playing with, whether you’re playing with a follow-the-rules crowd, or a tic-tacs-for-houses crowd. Because if you’re playing with the latter group and you start being a hardass over the rules everyone ignores, then you may win the point, but you won’t win any friends. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/98 "2012-02-18T02:06:10Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > No one will ever finish a game of Monopoly with me because I’ll always just buy up all the houses. There are a finite number of houses in the game, and if you own them all and never free any up by converting them to hotels, no one else can build anything. > > Some think that’s dirty pool, but I consider it a brilliant strategy. They’re just mad they didn’t think of it first. well see, in a friendly game, not accepting M&Ms as an appropriately coloured alternative would be lawyering, and dickish. the only reason the official rules are stated as such is because they do not want to admit to the insufficient amount of houses available in the box. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/99 "2012-02-18T02:12:53Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > wel the only reason the official rules are stated as such is because they do not want to admit to the insufficient amount of houses available in the box. Why would you think that? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792/100 "2012-02-18T02:14:08Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I think with a game like Monopoly, you’ve got to know who you’re playing with, whether you’re playing with a follow-the-rules crowd, or a tic-tacs-for-houses crowd. So you’re saying… make sure everyone agrees on the rules beforehand. Why do you think you’re disagreeing with the person you’re responding to? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cry-babies-who-quit-online-backgammon-when-they-start-to-lose/612792.md?page=6)