# Cryin Ass Republicans With All The Power **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072 "2018-01-20T21:05:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/61 "2018-01-21T20:28:07Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You don’t like the pay the soldiers line? Here, I’ll fix it for ya: > Democrats would rather stand with illegal aliens and shut down the friggin’ government rather than stand for the citizens. True definition of DACA: Democrats Against Citizens of America. > > This is squarely on the Democrats. And come mid-term time, I hope that every one of those ratbags that is running for re-election has his face ground in it by the opposition. [McConnell shot down a measure to pay the military.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/01/20/amid-government-shutdown-the-military-becomes-a-centerpiece-to-make-political-jabs/?utm_term=.bfdd3f2dca94) Blame him. > [@](#): > > But the situation wasn’t that simple. While Trump, House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.), Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and other Republicans blamed the Democrats, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) made an effort shortly after midnight to get the troops’ salaries and death benefits paid through the shutdown. > > “I want to make sure that tonight we send a very clear signal that we don’t want one moment to pass with there being any uncertainty of any soldier anywhere in the world that they will be paid for the valiant work they do for our national security,” McCaskill said, calling for a resolution to pay the troops. > > **McConnell scuttled the effort, objecting to her motion.** Fuck off, senile sack of shit. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/62 "2018-01-21T20:55:44Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Do you not understand that we need 60 votes to pass the Senate? Are you aware that Republicans only have 54 seats in the Senate? How many now? > [@Clothahump](#): > > You don’t like the pay the soldiers line? Here, I’ll fix it for ya: > Democrats would rather stand with illegal aliens and shut down the friggin’ government rather than stand for the citizens. True definition of DACA: Democrats Against Citizens of America. > > This is squarely on the Democrats. And come mid-term time, I hope that every one of those ratbags that is running for re-election has his face ground in it by the opposition. I do no doubt that there will be republicans repeating this lie, and there will be idiots like yourself that believe it. I choose to be optimistic that there are not enough people as stupid and gullible as yourself to keep the people that lie to you in office. I could be wrong though. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/63 "2018-01-21T20:56:16Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Its called the filibuster. > > The last shutdown was a minority party shutting down the government over Obamacare. > > This time a minority party is shutting down the government over DACA. > > The only real difference that isthat there was no chance of the 2013 shutdown accomplishing anything. Democrats were never going to repeal Obamcare. This time Republicans seem to be open to the idea of doing something about DACA but they just keep finding reasons not to. I already replied to this argument in GD, but there were parts I didn’t get to say there. This is dishonest as fuck. There is no way in hell the that minority party is always at fault for any lack of compromise. That is utter, motivated nonsense. The party at fault is the party who refuses any compromise. And, in both scenarios, it was a subsection of the Republicans who refuse to compromise. The subset isn’t necessarily the same, but it’s still always Republicans. What’s more, as I covered in GD, this time, that one party **lied**. One party in the negotiation was negotiating in bad faith. So everyone else took that in good faith, reached a compromise, and then that party **reneged**. The Democrats and most Republicans did what they could do. It is only one party that is choosing not to play ball. This is Trump’s shutdown. He and his cronies refused to compromise. This time after saying they would. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/64 "2018-01-21T21:04:30Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I started yelling “Lock him up” as the march went past the Trump Parc building and the entire crowd took up the chant. And I had this awesome hot pink hat with a fur band and a huge pom-pom that I bought from a street vendor. Good times. go, Sister! 😃 I would add Lock His Morbidly Obese Lying Ass Up! but yours is catchier ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/65 "2018-01-21T21:06:16Z")
Lets be frank: If the Repubs had the 50 votes in the first place, the “nuclear option” would have been exercised and the Bill would have passed Friday. Them going on about the need for 60 votes is pathetic and counter to the processes which brought about their victories w/ Gorsuch and the Tax Bill. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/66 "2018-01-21T21:08:53Z")
GOP through the years: 2009: “Let’s make Obama a one term president! F\* Dems!” 2010: “F\* Dems! Birther!” 2011: “F\* Dems! Birther!” 2012: “F\* Dems! Birther!” 2013: “F\* Dems! Birther!” 2014: “F\* Dems! Birther!” 2015: “F\* Dems! Birther!” 2016: “F\* Dems! MAGA!” 2017: “F\* Dems! More MAGA!” 2018: “Why won’t Dems VOTE WITH US?!?!” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/67 "2018-01-21T22:21:17Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > That is just utter horseshit. Consider the source. Of course it’s horse shit. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/68 "2018-01-21T22:23:18Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > It’s a catch-all term for the last year, and presumably the next three, although I think we should be prepared with a backup term just in case…well, you know. Maybe “Pence Perversion”? > > Can’t take yes for an answer? Hell, he can’t even accept that he won election without claiming it was still rigged ‘against’ him. He’s not just a sore winner, he’s a vexatious victor who must insist that everything about what he does is the greatliest, most beautiful, bigly important. He’s like a small child who has yet to develop a theory of mind that anyone else actually exists and whose parents indulge his every demand and whim. > > Which is exactly what is described in _The Art of the Deal_. I don’t know why anyone is suprised by this; if you’ve read twenty pages of the book (and there is little reason to read more as it is just repetition and self-aggrandizement, written by a ghostwriter specifically to feed Trump’s bloated ego) then you know everything worth knowing about Trump’s strategic approach to anything: be bombastic and boastful, demand and then deny, and of course, lie perneciously until you get what you want. > > Stranger and after you get your cut, don’t honor the fucking deal anyway. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/69 "2018-01-21T22:24:41Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I wish I had seen you!! Well done, **Ann Hedonia**!! Hell yeah! Well done!!! ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/70 "2018-01-21T22:34:51Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > and after you get your cut, don’t honor the fucking deal anyway. That is explicilty one of the ‘lessons’ in _The Art of the Deal_. Anybody suprised about the dishonest, spastic, infantile behavior of Donald Trump has no real excuse. He (or rather, his ghostwriter) laided it all out thirty years ago for anyone who can read. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/71 "2018-01-21T22:59:54Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > > [@pulykamell](#): > > > > That is just utter horseshit. > > Consider the source. Of course it’s horse shit. Why are there so many more horses’ asses than there are horses? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/72 "2018-01-21T23:01:56Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You don’t like the pay the soldiers line? Here, I’ll fix it for ya: > Democrats would rather stand with illegal aliens and shut down the friggin’ government rather than stand for the citizens. True definition of DACA: Democrats Against Citizens of America. What is DACA? A way of not forcing people who came to America as children from having to go to a place they don’t know. So, do you hate all children or only brown children? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/73 "2018-01-21T23:07:49Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > What is DACA? A way of not forcing people who came to America as children from having to go to a place they don’t know. > So, do you hate all children or only brown children? He hates all children who don’t buy a black belt from him. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/74 "2018-01-21T23:26:33Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > That is explicilty one of the ‘lessons’ in _The Art of the Deal_. > > Anybody suprised about the dishonest, spastic, infantile behavior of Donald Trump has no real excuse. He (or rather, his ghostwriter) laided it all out thirty years ago for anyone who can read. > > Stranger Did you actually expect every single voter to have read his book? I don’t think anybody who voted against Trump are surprised by the way he acts. It’s why they voted against him. They knew he’d be a disaster. They’d only be surprised if he wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/75 "2018-01-21T23:33:22Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > He hates all children who don’t buy a black belt from him. Nah, he hates the brown ones just for being brown. He’ll sell them the belt but he will still continue to hate their little brown butts. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/76 "2018-01-22T00:07:54Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > You don’t like the pay the soldiers line? Here, I’ll fix it for ya: > Democrats would rather stand with illegal aliens and shut down the friggin’ government rather than stand for the citizens. True definition of DACA: Democrats Against Citizens of America. > > This is squarely on the Democrats. And come mid-term time, I hope that every one of those ratbags that is running for re-election has his face ground in it by the opposition. You’re not only a compulsive liar, but a fucking moron. Go away. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/77 "2018-01-22T00:35:42Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > **You’re not only a compulsive liar, but a fucking moron**. Go away. We have known that for decades. Buy stock in Diago and Inbev. It’s the only way we are going to get through this. Well, that I can mention on a public message board monitored by the FBI, NSA, CIA, KGB, PTA and who knows who else. The turtle moves. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/78 "2018-01-22T00:37:22Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Why are there so many more horses’ asses than there are horses? Aliens! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/79 "2018-01-22T00:41:19Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > That is explicilty one of the ‘lessons’ in _The Art of the Deal_. > > Anybody suprised about the dishonest, spastic, infantile behavior of Donald Trump has no real excuse. He (or rather, his ghostwriter) laided it all out thirty years ago for anyone who can read. > > Stranger There’s a reason no U.S. bank will loan to him, there’s a reason whatever money didn’t come from Daddy Trump is coming from the Russians via crooked land deals and Deutsche Bank (but still Russian money), it’s because he is a fake, liar, deadbeat, welcher, and thief, and he always has been – and Putin owns him. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072/80 "2018-01-22T00:47:00Z")
I think we just need to realize that the end-game preferable to the base, and much of the Republican leadership, is one that has all 800k dreamers in camps. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryin-ass-republicans-with-all-the-power/807072.md?page=5)