# Cryptic overlaps

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 25, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983 "2021-06-25T03:30:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/201 "2021-07-25T04:23:00Z")

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Edward (in French) backpedals about TV show (3, 5)

RED DWARF (Edward anagram in FR backwards)

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Encourage forest development (6)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/202 "2021-07-25T11:40:01Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Encourage forest development (6)

FOSTER (forest anagram)

Football analyst had strawberry mashed (5, 8)

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/203 "2021-07-25T17:05:19Z")

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Terry Bradshaw

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Crystal river crossing (9)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/204 "2021-07-26T01:32:59Z")

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> Crystal river crossing (9)

Waterford

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I say, that dinosaur is pretty messed up without us. (6)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/205 "2021-07-26T02:12:03Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I say, that dinosaur is pretty messed up without us. (6)

ORDAIN (dinosaur - us)

Country star became citified (5)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/206 "2021-07-26T11:04:32Z")

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Apologies. I based my new word on DSINOSAUR instead of ORDAIN. Use this instead.

Resident in vessel (6)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/207 "2021-07-26T12:42:05Z")

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Ah, so the last one was URBAN.

Dunno about

Resident in vessel (6)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/208 "2021-07-27T10:42:03Z")

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Hint: Double meanings

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/209 "2021-07-27T16:13:44Z")

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I still got nothing after spending much of the morning sifting through synonyms. If there is a particular vessel named mate or tern, I cannot find it.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/210 "2021-07-27T16:26:21Z")

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INTERN (in + tern)

Actor Sincere loses a Star Trek alien annead (6, 8)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/211 "2021-07-27T16:47:22Z")

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ERNEST BORGNINE (earnest, borg+nine)

The herb irks (6)

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/212 "2021-07-27T19:02:04Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> INTERN (in + tern)

I thought of intern but dismissed it. A nitpick reason is that resident and intern are two different things: First year out of medical school you’re an intern, after that, and until you’re done training, you’re a resident. That aside, how does “tern” relate?

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/213 "2021-07-27T19:14:51Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> The herb irks (6)

Nettle

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Someone inserted a little ban on traveling here (7)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/214 "2021-07-27T19:36:27Z")

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> [@Oly](#):
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> That aside, how does “tern” relate?

I admit it’s a stretch, but “tern” is an archaic word for “drinking vessel.”

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/215 "2021-07-28T04:49:42Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I admit it’s a stretch, but “tern” is an archaic word for “drinking vessel.”

Not a double definition clue, though. It’s a charade clue. Double definition means the same word or phrase is defined by both parts of the clue. “IN TERN” is not the same as “INTERN”.

Also, can you cite where TERN means drinking vessel? A brief googling turned (pun intended) up nothing.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/216 "2021-07-28T11:06:02Z")

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OK fine. The clue sucked. We’ve moved on.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/217 "2021-07-28T14:18:05Z")

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> [@Oly](#):
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> Someone inserted a little ban on traveling here (7)

Lebanon?

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/218 "2021-07-28T14:25:50Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Lebanon?

That is correct.

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**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/219 "2021-07-28T14:27:21Z")

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Unknown nuts annoy tailess rodent (9)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/220 "2021-07-28T15:33:22Z")

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Anonymous (annoy + mouse - e)

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Associate and first rabbi enter border with astronaut (5, 4)

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