# Cryptic overlaps

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 25, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983 "2021-06-25T03:30:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3342 "2025-09-15T15:27:25Z")

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FERAL (ERA in FL)

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A large tree suitable for a rockery (6)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3343 "2025-09-15T19:44:20Z")

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A large tree suitable for a rockery (6)

ALPINE (A+L+pine)

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Uncouth individuals relocating near Shetland. (12)

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**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3344 "2025-09-15T20:19:52Z")

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NENDERTHALS (anagram of ‘near Shetland’).

Gag item, perhaps? (5, 4)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3345 "2025-09-16T02:40:32Z")

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> [@WalterBishop](#):
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> Gag item, perhaps? (5, 4)

STINK BOMB?

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**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3346 "2025-09-16T07:38:56Z")

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Correct 👍

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3347 "2025-09-16T11:22:31Z")

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STINK BOMB

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Servants could be subtler. (7)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3348 "2025-09-16T13:59:43Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Servants could be subtler. (7)

BUTLERS (anagram)

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Pop star is quick. (6)

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**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3349 "2025-09-16T17:29:36Z")

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Should the (6) be a (5)? I only ask because Swift would seem like a good fit.

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**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3350 "2025-09-17T17:22:27Z")

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@Knowed_Out - Could we get a hint?

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3351 "2025-09-17T17:32:45Z")

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[Speedy (musician) - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_(musician))?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3352 "2025-09-18T00:31:33Z")

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Take 2

BUTLERS (anagram)

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Pop star is quick. (5)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3353 "2025-09-18T00:55:25Z")

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SWIFT. (Double definition)

Lunch Dish Not From Pa From (6)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3354 "2025-09-18T17:33:35Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Lunch Dish Not From Pa From (6)

TOMATO (to + ma + to)

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Former Japanese capital restructured and relocated. (5)

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**Author:** ![NotEncinoMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@NotEncinoMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotEncinoMan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3355 "2025-09-18T18:23:45Z")

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MOVED

But not sure about the MV

Unless it’s a KYOTO via TOKYO thing

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**Author:** ![WalterBishop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/aeb1de/32.png) [@WalterBishop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WalterBishop)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3356 "2025-09-18T19:43:07Z")

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> [@NotEncinoMan](#):
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> Unless it’s a KYOTO via TOKYO thing

I reckon that’s it.

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**Author:** ![NotEncinoMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@NotEncinoMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotEncinoMan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3357 "2025-09-18T20:29:15Z")

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I can’t quite parse it then, can you help? Former Japanese capital is KYOTO, restructured is TOKYO but now ‘and relocated’ doesn’t work because it wasn’t Kyoto that was relocated, it was the location of the capital. Maybe I’m overthinking it

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**Author:** ![NotEncinoMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@NotEncinoMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotEncinoMan)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3358 "2025-09-19T10:01:04Z")

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TOKYO

Ruffian lad returning with a stench. (5)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3359 "2025-09-19T14:39:30Z")

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I meant the capital was relocated, not Kyoto. You got it right.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3360 "2025-09-19T15:42:42Z")

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> [@NotEncinoMan](#):
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> Ruffian lad returning with a stench. (5)

YOBBO (backwards BOY + BO)

Stun Robin Hood? (4,4)

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**Author:** ![NotEncinoMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@NotEncinoMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotEncinoMan)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/3361 "2025-09-19T19:26:27Z")

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BOWL OVER as dude loves his bow.

One type has drug-free poetry I only noticed at first. (7)

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