# Cryptic overlaps

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 25, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983 "2021-06-25T03:30:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/61 "2021-07-07T11:15:35Z")

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> Perverted orgy sandwich (4)

Gyro (anagram of ORGY)

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Bajoran fella with a twitch has what it takes to make us sigh (8)

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/62 "2021-07-07T12:38:54Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Bajoran fella with a twitch has what it takes to make us sigh (8)

Romantic (Ro [Laren] + man + tic)

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You brought along everyone, how sweet (11)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/63 "2021-07-07T19:36:43Z")

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Romanticism?

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/64 "2021-07-07T20:35:13Z")

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> [@Oly](#):
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> Romantic (Ro [Laren] + man + tic)
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> You brought along everyone, how sweet (11)

Having read more about cryptic puzzles I think my clue is lacking some key elements. Thinking up good clues, it seems, can be just as challenging as solving them.

If I may amend my previous clue, I offer this:

We won by a field goal. Sweet! (11)

ETA: Didn’t see “Romanticism” until after my post. That’s not it.

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/65 "2021-07-08T03:50:53Z")

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I got nothing. Anyone else?

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/66 "2021-07-08T04:44:37Z")

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The overlap is _tic_.

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/67 "2021-07-08T11:57:57Z")

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How about:

Sweet! The game is afoot (11)

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/68 "2021-07-08T12:53:55Z")

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Ticktacktoe?

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/69 "2021-07-08T16:19:04Z")

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Bingo! That’s it.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/70 "2021-07-08T16:52:45Z")

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Typically, cryptics have the synonym at the beginning or end of the clue. Plus, if all or part of the solution is a homonym, the clue should have an indicator like “sounds like” or something similar.

For “ticktacktoe,” use something like “Game sounds like candy appendage.” “Game” is the synonym for “Ticktacktoe,” “sounds like candy” is a homonym for “Tic Tac,” and “appendage” means “toe.”

It took me years to get the hang of cryptics. Some clues can be insidious. They use the standard indicators that turn out to be the words that are changed, not the ones that change the words.

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Wine connoisseur Lee Hon Poi got drunk (9)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/71 "2021-07-08T17:13:40Z")

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**Oenophile** (anagram of Lee Hon Poi)

Amen, a Greek slave owner got an F for being a sour thing (8)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/72 "2021-07-08T19:25:48Z")

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> Amen, a Greek slave owner got an F for being a sour thing (8)

Philemon (PHI + LEMON) _Don’t ask me how Philemon is a Greek slave, or a Greek slave owner, though. Maybe someone else knows_

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My Lord! Most of some urine splashed all over! (8)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/73 "2021-07-08T19:42:40Z")

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Paul’s epistle to Philemon in the New Testament (The “amen” was a clue to that) concerns Philemon’s slave Onesimus who is being returned to him.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/74 "2021-07-08T19:48:36Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Paul’s epistle to Philemon in the New Testament (The “amen” was a clue to that) concerns Philemon’s slave Onesimus who is being returned to him.

Ta.

(_plus enough characters to satisfy this stupid robot_)

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/75 "2021-07-08T20:05:24Z")

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Monsieur (anagram of some urin)

Element found in unstable little boy? (7)

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**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/76 "2021-07-08T21:44:10Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> Monsieur (anagram of some urin)

Shouldn’t the first letter(s) of the new solution overlap with the last letter(s) of the previous solution?

I’m cryptically challenged as is and need all the help I can get!

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/77 "2021-07-08T22:01:56Z")

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That’s right. The previous answer was PhileMON and this was MONsieur, so they overlap.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/78 "2021-07-08T23:05:33Z")

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uranium

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Cinderella’s shady twin sister

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/79 "2021-07-09T00:38:47Z")

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That shoulda been:

Cinderella’s shady twin sister (7)

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**Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/80 "2021-07-09T02:06:58Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Cinderella’s shady twin sister (7)

Mispost. Nm

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