# Cryptic overlaps **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983 "2021-06-25T03:30:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/101 "2021-07-11T17:57:16Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Reminiscent of redesign of observance (8) Renovate (partial anagram of observance + t) +++++++++ Eros and I get on to move mountains (7) ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/102 "2021-07-11T19:14:36Z")
> [@Oly](#): > > Renovate (partial anagram of observance + t) I think it’s actually REDOLENT (redo + lent) But we can continue with your clue. ---
**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/103 "2021-07-11T20:22:37Z")
> [@DemonTree](#): > > But we can continue with your clue. I get how REDO is related to redesign and REDOLENT to reminiscent, but where does LENT come from? Not questioning the validity of your answer, just trying to understand it. The way I interpreted the clue is redesign signaled an anagram, and reminiscent means “similar to” as well as “reminds one of”, so the answer would be a word that resembles an anagram of observance and reminds one of redesign. ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/104 "2021-07-11T20:37:44Z")
Lent is a religious observance. I got that after I already worked out the other two parts. > [@Oly](#): > > The way I interpreted the clue is redesign signaled an anagram, and reminiscent means “similar to” as well as “reminds one of”, so the answer would be a word that resembles an anagram of observance and reminds one of redesign. It’s quite common to use words that usually have a special meaning as a normal part of the clue, as a form of misdirection. And it would be a bad clue if it required you to guess which letters to anagram. If not all the letters in a word are used in the anagram, or extra letters are added, this should be signalled in some logical way. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/105 "2021-07-11T22:07:00Z")
> [@Oly](#): > > Eros and I get on to move mountains (7) Erosion (Eros + I + on), definition This ghoul summoner’s putting the moves on Nikita, Elvira & Cersei (11) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/106 "2021-07-11T22:23:25Z")
**DemonTree** is correct, for the record. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/107 "2021-07-11T23:09:56Z")
> [@](#): > > This ghoul summoner’s putting the moves on Nikita, Elvira & Cersei (11) Necromancer ( **N** ikita, **E** lvira, **C** ersei + **Romancer** ) +++++ The Cockney guy’s Herculean effort left me blue. (8) ---
**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/108 "2021-07-12T01:56:25Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The Cockney guy’s Herculean effort left me blue. (8) Cerulean (anagram of Herculean - H) +++++++++ In Tijuana, the marijuana is an accursed thing (8). ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/109 "2021-07-12T02:32:40Z")
ANATHEMA (container) Trimming particle, a bleeding (8) ---
**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/110 "2021-07-12T03:47:17Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Trimming particle, a bleeding (8) Hematoma (hema + anagram of atom) ++++++++++++ Pooch turns mother to stone. (7) ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/111 "2021-07-12T13:43:02Z")
Pooch turns mother to stone. (7) MASTIFF (MA + STIFF) +++++ River rose (6) ---
**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/112 "2021-07-12T15:14:04Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > River rose (6) Flower +++++++ Hue attribute of a Soviet/Scottish loch (7) ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/113 "2021-07-12T15:29:45Z")
Hue attribute of a Soviet/Scottish loch (7) REDNESS (Red + Ness) +++++ Needed last two of Pete’s saltine crackers (9) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/114 "2021-07-12T16:07:27Z")
ESSENTIAL (es + saltine) Old Ger. got tangled in African shrub for French lark (8) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/115 "2021-07-13T02:14:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Old Ger. got tangled in African shrub for French lark (8) Alouette ( **TEUT** onic + **OLEA** anagrammed) +++++ Tie down that mare for the New Year! (6) BTW, I want to give a shout out to @Biotop, both for this fun and challenging game, and especially for his latest entry _Needed last two of Pete’s saltine crackers (9): ESSENTIAL_. That was everything a good cryptic clue needs to be! ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/116 "2021-07-13T02:21:27Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Alouette ( **TEUT** onic + **OLEA** anagrammed) How about that. I meant ALOE for the “African shrub” part, but OLEA is correct too! Thumbs up **kaylasdad99**! ---
**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/117 "2021-07-13T03:06:02Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Tie down that mare for the New Year! (6) Tether +++++++ Mink are cooked in a little dish (7). ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/118 "2021-07-13T04:41:21Z")
> [@Oly](#): > > > [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > > > Trimming particle, a bleeding (8) > > Hematoma (hema + anagram of atom) Nope. No anagram. It’s all “charades”. Trimming = HEM Particle = ATOM a = A HEM + ATOM + A One thing to bear in mind is that anagrams should always be of words in the clue itself. It’s considered mostly unfair to expect someone to come up with a synonym of a word and then anagram it. ---
**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/119 "2021-07-13T05:53:49Z")
Mink are cooked in a little dish (7). RAMEKIN (anagram of MINK ARE) +++++ Creatively think Lodge quashed a vote (8) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2021, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/120 "2021-07-13T10:55:48Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Creatively think Lodge quashed a vote (8) INNOVATE (inn + a + vote) Tim and June comingled at _The Genghis Khan_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983.md?page=7)