# Cryptic overlaps

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 25, 2021, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983 "2021-06-25T03:30:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1882 "2023-01-23T03:18:15Z")

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I think some kind of hint is in order.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1883 "2023-01-23T08:01:28Z")

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OK - ‘both ways’ is simply a reference to there being two answers, one for each of the two previous answers.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1884 "2023-01-24T09:22:06Z")

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So to be really clear: there are 2 possible answers I was going for (in the manner of NYT US Election specials), one beginning with Y and one beginning with L, both 5 letters long.

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1885 "2023-01-24T13:30:57Z")

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YACHT and LEAVE.

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Off LEAVE (and including a T 😀):

Steve and I search on the border of Greece for anything left behind. (7)

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1886 "2023-01-24T14:56:51Z")

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Close enough, I was going for yacht and liner.

VESTIGE (anagram of Steve, I, and the G from Greece)

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What did I see in Irene, my nemesis? Sounds like musical notes (5)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1887 "2023-01-24T15:30:27Z")

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What did I see in Irene, my nemesis? Sounds like musical notes (5)

ENEMY (Irene my nemesis. Also NME)

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Bird playing a hymn. (5)

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1888 "2023-01-24T17:28:11Z")

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MYNAH (anagram of a hymn)

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Rhyming author - but not a poet (8)

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1889 "2023-01-25T14:23:35Z")

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Heinlein

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Electronic device contains edibles, not pants in it (7,3)

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1890 "2023-01-27T02:30:54Z")

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Hint: The puzzle part is “not pants in it”

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**Author:** ![Oly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oly/32/8255_2.png) [@Oly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oly)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1891 "2023-01-27T15:36:51Z")

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Hint2: It’s an anagram in a container using the words in the previous post

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1892 "2023-01-27T16:19:27Z")

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INSTANT POT? The extra “it” in your first hint threw me off a little, but mainly I wasn’t familiar with the brand (and I didn’t think of a kitchen appliance, but “contains edibles” should have clued me in on that). I feel like you deserved for this to be solved sooner!

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Exit trench the hard way, in short (1, 1, 1)

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1893 "2023-01-31T13:20:42Z")

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TNT 🧨. 💥 A hard way to exit a trench for sure.

Or maybe TMI, a hard way to exit the trench of pleasant ignorance.

Or how about TSA, definitely a hard way for something to exit one’s personal trench after being caught trying to smuggle it through airport security.

Or maybe TPP, the Mariana Trench is in the Pacific.

But I’m going with TLI, too little information. As in 2+ days of crickets is a hint that a hint is needed, lest the thread is DOA, which does not fit the overlap.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1894 "2023-01-31T13:28:03Z")

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Sorry! Let me expand on my original a little:

Exit trench the hard way, in short - very exaggerated (1, 1, 1)

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**Post date:** [February 1, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1895 "2023-02-01T22:39:20Z")

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Hint: what method of exiting a trench led to very few survivors?

ETA: my apologies if this phrase and/or abbreviation is uncommon in the US, I didn’t think it was particularly a Britishism but I could be wrong.

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1896 "2023-02-02T02:17:17Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> Hint: what method of exiting a trench led to very few survivors?

So it _is_ DOA?!

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1897 "2023-02-02T07:52:21Z")

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I’ll put you all out of your misery: the answer is OTT, short for ‘over the top’. In WWI, launching a (usually fruitless and bloody) attack from a trench was known as going over the top, and the phrase is also used to describe extravagant behaviour.

Playing off OTT:

Water level falls steeply in these (5)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1898 "2023-02-02T09:23:16Z")

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OK, I know this is very bad form, but cancel my last clue - I thought of a better one (for a different word) and it may be a long while before I get to use it otherwise:

Cycle back and forth (4)

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1899 "2023-02-02T12:03:57Z")

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TOOT?

(btw, I’ve heard of “over the top,” but not in abbreviated form)

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**Author:** ![Skunkdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skunkdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skunkdog)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1900 "2023-02-02T12:05:24Z")

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Wasn’t “Over the Top” a really bad Sylvester Stallone movie about an arm-wrestling truck driver?

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**Post date:** [February 2, 2023, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptic-overlaps/944983/1901 "2023-02-02T12:19:38Z")

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Not quite what I had in mind - I don’t think it solves the ‘cycle’ part.

> [@Skunkdog](#):
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> Wasn’t “Over the Top” a really bad Sylvester Stallone movie about an arm-wrestling truck driver?

News to me, but I assume it lived up to its title!

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