# Cryptics

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [March 29, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525 "2016-03-29T14:43:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/141 "2016-04-25T05:32:58Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> xxxxx
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> CD shows venery?! Nuts. It must be 1984 (4,5,3)

WHEN DOVES CRY\* is an anagram of “cd shows venery” with an extra “S”… and released in 1984…

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/142 "2016-04-25T06:56:28Z")

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> [@biotop](#):
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> Pit Jimmy Carter (6)

CRATER

I’ll try to come up with my own to post soon.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/143 "2016-04-25T07:05:55Z")

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OK here goes…first time, so be gentle… 🙂

Grim passion is achieved. (8)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/144 "2016-04-25T07:39:21Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Grim passion is achieved. (8)

With only one vital flaw…(fixed):

Grim passion in confusion is achieved. (8)

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/145 "2016-04-25T14:28:18Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> MYSTERIES
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> anagram (MISSY+TREE)
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> Woohoo I got one! I’ll get back to you when I have a cryptic done. 🙂

Close! “they say”/“I’ve heard”/“on the radio” means homonym

MISS + TREES said aloud sort of = Mysteries (depending on your pronunciation!)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/146 "2016-04-25T16:56:22Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Grim passion in confusion is achieved. (8)

REALIZED

Anagram of dire zeal

×××××

Park and/or one Greek First Lady (7)

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/147 "2016-04-26T06:19:39Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> WHEN DOVES CRY\* is an anagram of “cd shows venery” with an extra “S”… and released in 1984…

Oops, how embarrassing. Sorry! Glad you were able to figure it out anyway. I’ll clean it up for the book version.  
Park and/or one Greek First Lady (7) --PANDORA (P. and or A).

xxxxx

A survey regarding a midwestern state got Prince over his vanity (9)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/148 "2016-04-26T08:29:36Z")

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> [@AppallingGael](#):
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> A survey regarding a midwestern state got Prince over his vanity (9)

APOLLONIA

A+POLL+ON+IA  
×××××

Copperhead snake hunter and McKellen empty a really big lake. (7, 3)

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/149 "2016-04-26T17:27:04Z")

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Copperhead snake hunter and McKellen empty a really big lake. (7, 3)

CASPIAN SEA (C is the “head” of copper, ASP = snake, Hunter and McKellen = IANS empty = E, a = A)

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Jogger grabbing a rest (9)

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/150 "2016-04-26T17:30:55Z")

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Walker’s color wrench without spelling “ballad” (6, 4)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/151 "2016-04-26T17:53:06Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Copperhead snake hunter and McKellen empty a really big lake. (7, 3)
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> CASPIAN SEA (C is the “head” of copper, ASP = snake, Hunter and McKellen = IANS empty = E, a = A)
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> ### 
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> Jogger grabbing a rest (9)

REMAINDER

REMI-A-NDER

×××××

Model is in favor of baby buggy? Yep (9)

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/152 "2016-04-26T19:23:37Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Model is in favor of baby buggy? Yep (9)

🙂 PROTOTYPE (In favor of = PRO, baby=TOT, “buggy yep” = anag YPE)  
Wild river to the Caspian after turning brown (7)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/153 "2016-04-26T19:28:55Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Walker’s color wrench without spelling “ballad” (6, 4)

PURPLE RAIN

PURPLE (-SP)RAIN

×××××

Pitching ace, king was her mistake (7)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/154 "2016-04-26T20:25:30Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> 🙂 PROTOTYPE (In favor of = PRO, baby=TOT, “buggy yep” = anag YPE)  
> Wild river to the Caspian after turning brown (7)

NATURAL

NAT (reverse) + URAL

xxxxx

J. Grumby, he is one who passes over (7)

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/155 "2016-04-26T20:54:15Z")

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“First People Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Hindus in 1900 (9)  
“First Person Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Buddhist in 1889 (9)

\_ R \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_

Started keeping upper floor like a garden trellis (8) [SPOILER BOX your answer!]

Pitching ace, king was her mistake (7)

J. Grumby, he is one who passes over (7)

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/156 "2016-04-26T22:04:52Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> J. Grumby, he is one who passes over (7)

Skipper.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2016, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/157 "2016-04-27T22:47:38Z")

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“First People Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Hindus in 1900 (9)  
“First Person Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Buddhist in 1889 (9)

\_ R \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_  
OK, spill!! This is killing me. 😛

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/158 "2016-04-28T00:49:34Z")

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> [@Biotop](#):
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> Cox and Rathvon do a monthly variety cryptic puzzle for the Wall Street Journal similar to their great Atlantic puzzles. They are available free at the WSJ web site.

I started from the newest cryptic and wanted to work my way backwards. I found a link to download the puzzle as a PDF, and printed it so I could take it with me to work on it. Did the same with the previous cryptic. Now I want to do the one before that and I can’t find a link to get the PDF, and the link to print the puzzle only brings up the solution.

Did the WSJ change their site recently, or am I not getting the same page that I was before?

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/159 "2016-04-28T02:06:27Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> “First People Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Hindus in 1900 (9)  
> “First Person Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Buddhist in 1889 (9)
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> \_ R \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_  
> OK, spill!! This is killing me. 😛

Would it help you to know:

“First Pacifican Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Polynesian in 1945 (9)

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**Author:** ![Biotop](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biotop/32/321_2.png) [@Biotop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biotop)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cryptics/750525/160 "2016-04-28T02:09:42Z")

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Or how about:

“First Prude Wearing Sneakers” is title taken by Victorian in 1928 (9)

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