# crystal vs. glass **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 16, 1999, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363 "1999-09-16T03:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mikan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mikan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/1 "1999-09-16T03:27:00Z")
What’s the difference (apart from price) between crystal and ordinary glass? And what’s the big deal about “cut” crystal, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/2 "1999-09-16T03:50:00Z")
To be called ‘crystal’, glass needs a certain lead content, in the form of lead oxide. The lead gives it a higher index of refraction, so it sparkles more. Glass items can be molded (look for lines down opposite sides of a cheap piece, where the halves of the mold didn’t line up), which saves money but gives the design a soft rounded finish. Cutting with an abrasive wheel takes a lot of highly-skilled labour, but gives the design sharp, clear edges that catch the light better. ## It’s easy to see the difference if you set two pieces side-by-side. Bob the Random Expert “If we don’t have the answer, we’ll make one up.” ---
**Author:** ![mikan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mikan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/3 "1999-09-16T04:14:00Z")
Thanks, Bob, for your Random Expertise! When looking at crystal not long ago, I also felt that it was quite heavy. Is it heavier than regular/ordinary glass? ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/4 "1999-09-16T04:15:00Z")
It’s easy to hear the difference, as well. Crystal rings if you tap it with, oh, a butter knife. ---
**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/5 "1999-09-16T04:21:00Z")
My last post caused me to do a little research in the kitchen. Glass will ring (more like ding), but the note you elicit from glass fades much more quickly than that from crystal. ---
**Author:** ![Undead\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Undead\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Undead_Dude)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/6 "1999-09-16T04:22:00Z")
Lead crystal is also less brittle (more flexible) than regular glass. This flexibility gives it a greater ability to resonate, which is why crystal is sometimes used to make musical tones, an why it can be shattered by a voice under the right circumstances. When I was a teenager, my mom had a bunch of crystal, and from time to time I would drop them on the floor (on accident). I was always impressed by two things that were both a result of this flexibility-- they almost never broke, and when they hit the floor, they made a very loud tonal sound. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/7 "1999-09-16T05:04:00Z")
And with crystal, you can dip your finger in water and run it along the rim and make it “sing”. ---
**Author:** ![mikan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mikan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/8 "1999-09-16T05:30:00Z")
Ah, yes - I forgot about whole singing wine glass trick. That alone makes crystal worth the extra price. But back to the “cut” crystal: I guess what I was wondering is whether or not it’s possible to cut ordinary glass in the same way as crystal? Does the brittleness or ordinary glass make it less amenable to being cut, or is there simply no point to cutting it in the first place (because, after all, it’s just plain ol’ glass)? ---
**Author:** ![mikan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mikan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/9 "1999-09-16T05:33:00Z")
Make that “brittleness OF ordinary glass.” (Grrr…) ---
**Author:** ![Moonshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Moonshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonshine)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/10 "1999-09-16T08:41:00Z")
The heaviness of crystal is directly attributable to its lead content, the more lead that is put into it the heavier it becomes and the better it refracts the light. There are two types of cut used in making crystal ornaments; I forget their names but one is the actual “cutting” which produced ridges and channels, the other is abrasive which matts the surface down. Both of these take a very long time to learn how to do properly, so my guess would be that glass ornamentation is moulded and crystal is cut, simply because of the cost of labour. Another thing I learnt on my tour of the Waterford factory is that those cut crystal vases look really really nice under the powerful spotlighting in the showroom, but not nearly as splendind in the more normal lighting of your house. * * * It only hurts when I laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/11 "1999-09-16T09:27:00Z")
Correct me if I’m wrong but the fundamental difference between crystal and glass is that crystal has a crystaline structure, glass is an amorphous solid. Lead oxide aside, virtually all the advantages of crystal are due to its crystaline structure. The _singing_ is caused by resonation, glass doesn’t resonate under typical circumstances. Crystal has a better clarity and more strength due to the structure. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/12 "1999-09-16T15:32:00Z")
I don’t think “crystal” actually does have a crystalline structure. Yes, that means “crystal” is a misnomer. It’s still glass, just a specialized type. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 1999, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/13 "1999-09-16T22:28:00Z")
Quartz is crystaline Silicon, correct. If were concerned with Quartz crystal then it obviously is, I assumed that lead crystal was a leaded quartz, if not I’m curious what about adding lead oxide to glass improves the physical qualities of it. Is it still an amorphous solid? ---
**Author:** ![Undead\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Undead\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Undead_Dude)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/14 "1999-09-17T00:15:00Z")
Quartz in crystalline silicon dioxide. I am almost positive that “lead crystal” is amorphous, primarily for one reason. It doesn’t cleave. EB classifies lead crystal as a subtype of glass (“lead-alkali-silicate glasses”), and refers to glass in general as an amorphous solid. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/15 "1999-09-17T01:07:00Z")
Crystal can use other metals besides lead. Silver is used by an Austrian company, Swarovski. The cost is generally too high for stemware, but they use it for some spectacular collectibles. * * * Sue from El Paso [members.aol.com/majormd/index.html](http://members.aol.com/majormd/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/16 "1999-09-17T01:15:00Z")
So what is crystaline Silicon, Si[sub]4[/sub]? It must be quite similar to diamond, and thereofre very useful and valuable. ---
**Author:** ![Undead\_Dude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Undead\_Dude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Undead_Dude)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/17 "1999-09-17T05:05:00Z")
Going back to EB again: > [@](#): > > Pure silicon is a hard, dark gray solid with a metallic lustre and with > a crystalline structure the same as that of the diamond form of carbon, to which silicon shows many chemical and physical similarities. It doesn’t seem to say what the crystalline form is used for. Of well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/18 "1999-09-17T20:56:00Z")
Omni and Undead, I’m surprised! Crystalline silicon is used for the chips you computer is running on! Pure silicon (I mean _really, **really** _ pure; they _start_ with ‘reagent grade’ material, like a chemist would use for research, and refine it from there) is a pretty good electrical insulator, but if it’s doped with tiny amounts of other elements, it can conduct electricity in interesting ways. ## But cut crystal is prettier. 🙂 Bob the Random Expert “If we don’t have the answer, we’ll make one up.” ---
**Author:** ![rjk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@rjk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjk)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/19 "1999-09-17T20:57:00Z")
## “the chips **your** computer is running on” Bob the Random Expert “If we don’t have the answer, we’ll make one up.” ---
**Author:** ![aseymayo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@aseymayo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aseymayo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363/20 "1999-09-17T22:34:00Z")
And just to confuse you more, Mikan, “crystal” can also refer to the color of the glass (or lack thereof). If you start collecting Depression glass, you’ll find many patterns come in pink, green, amber, etc. and “crystal.” This doesn’t mean the glass is higher quality, but that it is “crystal clear.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/crystal-vs-glass/3363.md?page=2)