# CSI - I fell asleep... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 22, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691 "2006-09-22T11:09:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/1 "2006-09-22T11:09:40Z")
With Earl and The Office at the earlier slot I can start watching CSI again. But I fell asleep last night about half way thru and woke up at the end… what the heck happenned with the blonde (there’s evidence that I haven’t been watching for a while… I can’t even think of her name). ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/2 "2006-09-22T11:52:05Z")
Well, the team wrapped up the two cases they were working on (dead guy was a suicide, dead woman was an accident), and at the end, Catherine and Nick went to a bar or something as an excuse to put John Mayer on the show. Some girl was scoping Nick out, so Catherine cut him loose and was just sitting at the bar by herself. The bartender told her some guy wanted to buy her a drink, she said no, and shortly after that, the camera focus went fuzzy, so somebody must have drugged her. She woke up in a strange hotel, gathered all the evidence she could (including an impromptu rape kit, which I found pretty fascinating), and that’s about it. And Grissom and Sophie found a murder scene that had been recreated in a perfect diorama, which was pretty cool. But I don’t know if I like the idea of starting the new case the week before. I hope it doesn’t become a trademark. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/3 "2006-09-22T12:06:47Z")
I think CSI is one of the best cop shows out there, and probably the best one on the networks. But that season opener was pretty bland. The diorama thing was way cool, but that was it. BTW, it said “to be continued”, so I don’t think this actually counts as previewing next week’s crime on this week’s show. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/4 "2006-09-22T12:24:49Z")
I too was rather disappointed by the season premier. It seemed like just another episode, and not a very good one either. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/5 "2006-09-22T12:44:19Z")
[QUOTE=Lord Il Palazzo] I too was rather disappointed by the season premier. It seemed like just another episode, and not a very good one either. [/QUOTE] I was hoping that maybe the sesame seeds were a clue trail left by the dead guy. And how hard was to figure out that the chick was a Cirque wannabe? Plus, where’s the Grisson/Sarah romance thingy? There was only the briefest hint of it in the lunch room. I want to see them caught in the act in one of the labs! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/6 "2006-09-22T14:09:34Z")
It seemed to be a reverse season-opener, instead of resolving last season’s cliffhanger, they gave us a new one. Last season we were all wondering if they’d kill off Brass, but instead of picking up where we left off, the show started some weeks later. Brass is healthy, but having emotional problems that no one seems to have to noticed yet. Then we get a full song by John Mayer at the end, all the loose ends are tied (save Brass), and I’m about to throw my boot at my TV as Mayer goes into a second song, and then they drop another cliffhanger on us. So, the first 50 minutes were basically a waste of time. Weird. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/7 "2006-09-22T15:46:40Z")
Two bodies, but no crime…I think that’s a first for this show. I can’t think of any good reason why Catherine wouldn’t want to do a formal investigation on her date rape, instead of her do-it-yourself version with no proper equipment. A weak episode, except for the diorama. ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/8 "2006-09-22T16:06:39Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] I can’t think of any good reason why Catherine wouldn’t want to do a formal investigation on her date rape, instead of her do-it-yourself version with no proper equipment. [/QUOTE] The only reasons I’ve come up with are possible embarrassment that she, a jaded former-stripper investigator, had been drugged; or that she may have been afraid the perp would come back. Of course, if it’s the latter, why’d she take a shower right there? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/9 "2006-09-22T16:11:09Z")
I don’t watch the show regularly but find it pretty good when I do watch it. However, I found this ep really disgusting and hypocritical - I was going to post a thread on it but didn’t get to it before I saw this one. I really didn’t like how they exploit Catherine’s (Marg Helgenberger’s) sexuality at the exact same time they are portraying her as going through a rape. The long camera shots of her nude back, the impromptu rape kit insertion - it made ME want to take a shower. Kinda like a newscast screaming outrage about kiddie porn - while showing (partially blacked out) pictures of kiddie porn. Very offensive, IMHO… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/10 "2006-09-22T16:11:22Z")
I’m kinda skittish about the diorama business - I hate episodes that hinge on supercriminals. They’re lazy because the writers don’t have to think up ways for some piece of incidental evidence to break the case, they can just say the volcano dust or the powdered turtle shell or the tie-rod from a 1975 Corvette was left there _on purpose because the whole thing is just a big puzzle for Grissom_. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/11 "2006-09-22T16:13:41Z")
Bill Peterson shows off his double chin by shaving? George Eads tries again to draw attention from his chisled good looks by getting another Worst Haircut on TV? Naked Marg Helgenberger? Danny Bonaduce in a pool of blood? It had it all! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/12 "2006-09-22T16:17:05Z")
As for Catherine, I’d personally prefer it _not_ turn out to be a roofie rape. It should end up just being a case or her getting really drunk, with some video footage showing her pulling her equally-drunk date to the motel. And her date was dun dun DUNNNNN! - Nick Stokes. ---
**Author:** ![Hirundo82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/919ad9/32.png) [@Hirundo82](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirundo82)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/13 "2006-09-22T16:21:04Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] I can’t think of any good reason why Catherine wouldn’t want to do a formal investigation on her date rape, instead of her do-it-yourself version with no proper equipment. [/QUOTE] A possible reason that came to my mind was that she is planning on processing the evidence on the sly, hoping to find out who her rapist was. I think if she figures that out she is planning on taking justice into her own hands. She did also get a look at a possible suspect–the guy who tried to buy her a drink at the bar. So far as I know, the common date rape drugs do not cause retrograde amnesia. Of course, CSI has never let scientific evidence get in the way of a plot device. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/14 "2006-09-22T16:46:40Z")
[QUOTE=Hirundo82] A possible reason that came to my mind was that she is planning on processing the evidence on the sly, hoping to find out who her rapist was. I think if she figures that out she is planning on taking justice into her own hands. She did also get a look at a possible suspect–the guy who tried to buy her a drink at the bar. So far as I know, the common date rape drugs do not cause retrograde amnesia. Of course, CSI has never let scientific evidence get in the way of a plot device. [/QUOTE] problem with that is that she turned down the offer, and the drug was clearly in the drink she already had… so this points to the bartender, not the hobbit looking fellow down the way. I also think she’s going to take matters into her own hands, and she’s probably suffering like many other victims… embarrasment and anger, except she has the tools to exact revenge where many dont. I didnt think they actually answered the death of the dancer girl… what a crush he had on her!.. They got the boyfriends version, but no one went to see if she could hit her head in the way described … I guess they didnt have a dummy available to test with. Spoiler from part 2: The text that I read indicated that Lindsey gets kidnapped, and that Catherine suspect that she’s (her family) is being targeted… I guess this is where they use the scenes that were rumored to have been filmed as part of last season’s finale ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/15 "2006-09-22T16:46:57Z")
[QUOTE=Draelin] But I don’t know if I like the idea of starting the new case the week before. I hope it doesn’t become a trademark. [/QUOTE] It is the season-opener two-parter. After we find out next week in part two, I’m betting the show goes back to the standard format. It’s all about ratings and ad dollars. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/16 "2006-09-22T16:49:22Z")
[QUOTE=Hirundo82] A possible reason that came to my mind was that she is planning on processing the evidence on the sly, hoping to find out who her rapist was. I think if she figures that out she is planning on taking justice into her own hands. She did also get a look at a possible suspect–the guy who tried to buy her a drink at the bar. So far as I know, the common date rape drugs do not cause retrograde amnesia. Of course, CSI has never let scientific evidence get in the way of a plot device. [/QUOTE] That has to be it. No way the evidence she gathered would be good enough for court. No sterile tools, no chain of evidence, nothing. But wouldn’t she need Hodges to run the DNA for her? I always gathered it was the one test that only a specialist could do (in CSI universe). ---
**Author:** ![Mouse\_Maven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@Mouse\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mouse_Maven)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/17 "2006-09-22T16:51:09Z")
[QUOTE=Hirundo82] A possible reason that came to my mind was that she is planning on processing the evidence on the sly, hoping to find out who her rapist was. I think if she figures that out she is planning on taking justice into her own hands. She did also get a look at a possible suspect–the guy who tried to buy her a drink at the bar. So far as I know, the common date rape drugs do not cause retrograde amnesia. Of course, CSI has never let scientific evidence get in the way of a plot device. [/QUOTE] I was thinking about Pitting the CSI franchise for this little plot. Last season on CSI:NY one of their female characters was raped by a former boyfriend(?). I’m sick to my stomach to think that a bunch of producer/ writers are sitting around going, “We need something new. Something edgy. I know let’s sexually humiliate one of the women!! We’ll make her look strong and independent by having her refuse therapy or file charges. It’ll be great!” Bastards. Sorry, I’ll go now. ---
**Author:** ![Hirundo82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/919ad9/32.png) [@Hirundo82](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirundo82)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/18 "2006-09-22T17:05:18Z")
[QUOTE=h.sapiens] But wouldn’t she need Hodges to run the DNA for her? I always gathered it was the one test that only a specialist could do (in CSI universe). [/QUOTE] Honestly, PCR is an easy procedure to perform once you have your setup working correctly. But as you say, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything in the CSI universe And even if they make it that Catherine can’t do it herself, I would think it would be possible to slip it in with another batch of samples for analysis. Isn’t that how she figured out Sam Braun is her father? Or Greg definitely still knows how to do it–Catherine has him so wrapped around her finger I’m sure he would run it for her, no questions asked. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/19 "2006-09-22T18:47:07Z")
[QUOTE=Hirundo82] And even if they make it that Catherine can’t do it herself, I would think it would be possible to slip it in with another batch of samples for analysis. Isn’t that how she figured out Sam Braun is her father? [/QUOTE] So, is Sam gonna have the guy killed, you figure? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691/20 "2006-09-22T18:49:14Z")
[QUOTE=dropzone] Bill Peterson shows off his double chin by shaving? George Eads tries again to draw attention from his chisled good looks by getting another Worst Haircut on TV? Naked Marg Helgenberger? Danny Bonaduce in a pool of blood? It had it all! [/QUOTE] Oh, yeah! I heard DB was supposed to be on the show, so that must’ve been him. Guess he finally “broke”, huh? 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-i-fell-asleep/373691.md?page=2)