# CSI, Miami CSI, Law and Order, L&O CI, L&O SVU etc. - mini rant **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 16, 2003, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-miami-csi-law-and-order-l-o-ci-l-o-svu-etc-mini-rant/161717 "2003-03-16T03:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lisa-go-Blind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Lisa-go-Blind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lisa-go-Blind)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-miami-csi-law-and-order-l-o-ci-l-o-svu-etc-mini-rant/161717/21 "2003-03-17T22:16:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Iteki \* > \*\*My main problem with it is how incredibly slow they seem to be. Not the brightest pennies in the pond, you know? > (snip) > \*\* The same thing happens on “Law and Order” sometimes. A psychologist or attorney will use An Unfamiliar Term and the officer will say, “I don’t understand. What is \_\_\_\_?”, which leads to A Thoughtful Explanation for the Home Viewers. This rings false often–shouldn’t Bennet know what Muchausens by Proxy is, especially with all the news coverage involving it? This is sorta funny when The Unfamiliar Term involves something Hollywood related, though. Another weird thing–I know the viewer can only concentrate on one case at a time, but in real life do detectives spend all their time on one case before it is “solved” or turns cold? That said, I do like Vincent D’Onofrio, even with the savant schick (although I agree it worked better the first few times around). What is disappointing is that Kathryn Erbe’s character is barely used, and when she is, it’s usually to ask the previously mentioned questions. She’s a great actress, but she’s so underused, I don’t even know her character’s name. That said, I still think that all the Law and Orders are the best dramatic shows on TV, although Homicide: Life on the Street was the best of all time. Ah, the old days, when that was basically the only thing on CourtTV’s schedule–if you were in the mood to watch Homicide, it was probably on. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-miami-csi-law-and-order-l-o-ci-l-o-svu-etc-mini-rant/161717/22 "2003-03-17T22:40:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dinahmoe \* > \*\*I watched Criminal Intent for the first time last night, and I had the same credibility problem with Chris Meloni’s character. It’s Keller in a suit! Plus, B.D. Wong, who plays Father Ray on OZ, is also on the show, out of his clerical collar. > > Worlds colliding! \*\* I just thought I’d point out that almost the **entire cast** of _Oz_ has appeared on _Law & Order_ in some capacity. Don’t forget O’Reilly was on SVU before they hired Ice-T to replace him. Try it yourself: Go to IMDb, click on each Law & Order series link so they’ll be aged, then go to _Oz_ and click on each actor’s name and check their history. You’ll find that, oh, 90% have appeared on at least one episode of L&O. (It’s b/c Dick Wolf and Tom Fonatna are old friends). As for the OP, I don’t watch CSI, but I’ve been an L&O fan from the very beginning. Don’t like it? ::shrug:: Don’t watch. I equate this with the “Simpsons sux now” rants. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-miami-csi-law-and-order-l-o-ci-l-o-svu-etc-mini-rant/161717/23 "2003-03-20T13:08:06Z")
The cross-pollination also extends to _The Practice_, where five of the main actors (Michael Badalucco, Kelli Williams, Lisa Gay Hamilton, Steve Harris, Camryn Manheim) have done guest shots on _Law & Order_. Manheim made multiple appearances and is the only one to appear as a lawyer. All of them have played criminals or suspected criminals. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/csi-miami-csi-law-and-order-l-o-ci-l-o-svu-etc-mini-rant/161717.md?page=1)