# Cultural significance of Kraft Dinner **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 9, 2002, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102 "2002-06-09T14:45:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phouchg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/41988e/32.png) [@Phouchg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phouchg)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/1 "2002-06-09T14:45:24Z")
Why is Kraft Dinner such a large part of candian cultural lore? I hear and see references to it on the web all the time. Here in the US, Kraft “Macaroni and Cheese” is marketed primarily to kids (or busy moms). How did it become the _ne plus ultra_ of Canadian food pop culture? Phouchg Lovable Rogue ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/2 "2002-06-09T16:30:00Z")
And why is it called Kraft Dinner up there? Does it actually say that on the box? ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/3 "2002-06-09T16:56:44Z")
Would [this picture](http://members.tripod.com/~tif22/KDring.html) answer your question ? ---
**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/4 "2002-06-09T17:14:57Z")
There is nothing finer for a bachelor who lacks a cooking skills, time, and cash. Cheap, easy, delicious meal that anyone can make and you ask why worship? The only way it could be any better is if it cured cancer. DaLovin’ Dj ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/5 "2002-06-09T18:07:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by detop \* > \*\*Would [this picture](http://members.tripod.com/~tif22/KDring.html) answer your question ? \*\* :eek: Bad internet. Bad, bad, internet! ---
**Author:** ![LolaBaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@LolaBaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaBaby)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/6 "2002-06-09T20:41:29Z")
Kraft Macaroni and Cheese is a secret addiction. 😃 I make it for my son and whatever he doesn’t finish, I get to eat. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/7 "2002-06-09T20:42:56Z")
Could the recent surge in its popularity be due to the Barenaked Ladies? “If I had a million dollars (if I had a million dollars) We wouldn’t have to eat Kraft Dinner (But we WOULD eat Kraft Dinner!) Yeah, we’d just eat MORE - and with all those fancy Dijon ketchups” So, do you hosers actually put ketchup on your mac and cheese? I was just getting to accept the concept of vinegar on french fries. ---
**Author:** ![Gregor\_Samsa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@Gregor\_Samsa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gregor_Samsa)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/8 "2002-06-09T21:02:08Z")
I eat my KD with ketchup, Tabasco and black pepper. ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2002, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/9 "2002-06-09T23:47:34Z")
I eat KD slightly cooled (far from cold, or even lukewarm, but not straight from the pot), alone. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/10 "2002-06-10T00:02:36Z")
My roommate **Wyldkard** is a Kraft Dinner virtuoso. Although I have to say I like the store brand better. (The cheese is more consistent. Sorry.) ---
**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/11 "2002-06-10T00:04:23Z")
My wife has made M&C from scratch and Kraft Dinner, and even she agrees there’s not much difference between the two. Dijon on mine, please. . . . ---
**Author:** ![Com2Kid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Com2Kid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Com2Kid)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/12 "2002-06-10T02:04:34Z")
People actualy _eat_ those things? eeew. Disgusting, they have almost NO cheese in them, horrid. Ick ick ick ickies. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/13 "2002-06-10T02:29:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pesch \* > \*\*My wife has made M&C from scratch and Kraft Dinner, and even she agrees there’s not much difference between the two. > > Dijon on mine, please. . . . \*\* How the hell does she make it? I’m not one to bash Kraft Dinner - I love the stuff - but in no way does it taste like M&C from scratch. Unless your wife makes M&C from scratch using cheapo noodles and powdered cheese or the two of you have no taste buds, there’s no way it tastes the same. M&C from scratch tastes like CHEESE. Kraft Dinner tastes like, well, Kraft Dinner. Despite the ads saying it’s the ‘cheesiest’, the taste has no resemblence to real cheese. Does your wife need a recipe for M&C? ---
**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/14 "2002-06-10T03:13:24Z")
When I eat KD, I have it with Dave’s Insanity Sauce[sup]TM[/sup], A-1 steak sauce, and possibly some ketchup. If I’m feeling adventurous, I’ll have some mustard on top of it all, though not too much. F\_X ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/15 "2002-06-10T03:30:52Z")
Nope nope nope. Lipton Pasta and Sauce in Three Cheese Rotini for me! ---
**Author:** ![Flutterby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Flutterby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flutterby)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/16 "2002-06-10T04:21:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pesch \* > \*\*My wife has made M&C from scratch and Kraft Dinner, and even she agrees there’s not much difference between the two. > > Dijon on mine, please. . . . \*\* Do you mean she buys elbow noodles and cheese powder and makes it like that? Cuz that _is_ exactly the same… I used to have Mom make it for me like that all the time. Now I prefer having shell noodles with real cheese (cheddar and mozza) grated over the cooked noodles with a little butter and milk to make it creamy… mmmmm… NO ketchup though! My buddy Liam liked ketchup on his… and he has a bottle… you won’t believe this… of the _purple_ ketchup in his fridge… ewwww!!! ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/17 "2002-06-10T05:53:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by detop \* > \*\*Would [this picture](http://members.tripod.com/~tif22/KDring.html) answer your question ? \*\* Uh, not really, since it won’t let me see it. So what is the answer? To me, Kraft Dinner seems like a really stupid name. Sort of like those cans of “Drink” from the movie Repo Man. ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/18 "2002-06-10T06:25:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > **Uh, not really, since it won’t let me see it.** Try [this](http://www.kraftcanada.com/controller?cmd=PROD_DISPLAY_ARTICLE&lang=EN&ID=21965&t=p). And if that isn’t disturbing, [this should do the trick](http://www.kraftdinner.com/index.cgi). > [@](#): > > **To me, Kraft Dinner seems like a really stupid name.** The tolerance just oozes around here, sometimes. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/19 "2002-06-10T07:43:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > **Uh, not really, since it won’t let me see it.** Sorry, try [http://members.tripod.com/~tif22/KDring.html](http://members.tripod.com/~tif22/KDring.html) instead ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2002, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102/20 "2002-06-10T07:55:50Z")
It has nothing to do with tolerance, it has to do with description. “Kraft Macaroni and Cheese” = you know that it is macaroni and cheese. “Kraft Dinner” = ??? could be anything. Would you name a product “General Mills Lunch” ? “Kellogg’s Breakfast”? It just strikes me as a little stupid to not mention the actual food present, but rather the meal it should be eaten for. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cultural-significance-of-kraft-dinner/113102.md?page=2)