# Cuomo might be in some trouble \[Gov has resigned\]\[Brother Chris fired by CNN\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 24, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678 "2021-02-24T22:32:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/203 "2021-08-03T22:10:16Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > Is Fox News experiencing a dilemma? Prominent Democrat nailed for sex scandal by Letitia James, who is a lying liar who always lies (at least about Trump). I don’t have the stomach to check, but I wonder how they’re spinning the fact that all prominent Democrats are calling on Cuomo to resign. I wonder if they knew it was even possible to ask a member of your own party to resign when caught doing something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/204 "2021-08-03T22:28:58Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > But political parties want to encourage “good” behavior, meaning they want future scandal-ridden pols to resign when something like this comes out, rather than stay and fight and possibly hurt the party further. So party apparatuses will probably try to offer some sort of quiet but still lucrative gig to disgraced pols so that future pols will see that they’d be wise to do what the party wants them to do. > [@flurb](#): > > Get the disgraced pol to resign, let him lie low for a while then find him some sinecure — faculty position, partnership in a Democratic-friendly law firm, political consulting work, etc. It also leaves open the possibility, no matter how thin, that the pol can rehabilitate his image enough to run for office again. Though how soft is the soft landing may depend on what is the cause for the removal and what are the circumstances of the removal. Cuomo has been digging in because he knows that right now the pressure on the party apparat will be to deny him too golden a parachute, and he has read the Zeitgeist and knows that in this year 2021, as **Czarcasm** mentioned, the vibe is _“You say I must leave? **Make me!** ”_ ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/205 "2021-08-03T22:30:39Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t have the stomach to check, but I wonder how they’re spinning the fact that all prominent Democrats are calling on Cuomo to resign. I wonder if they knew it was even possible to ask a member of your own party to resign when caught doing something wrong. They’re probably spinning a line like “Ah, they’ll probably let him lie low for a while then find him some sinecure — faculty position, partnership in a Democratic-friendly law firm, political consulting work, etc.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/206 "2021-08-03T22:36:41Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > He’s toast and he has to know it. As I’m sure is being made abundantly clear to him by major donors and party bigwigs, if he wants to have _any_ future in Democratic-allied circles – media commentator, speakers circuit, think tank appointment – he needs to resign now. > > If he resigns now, he can spend a year or two in the wilderness going through a period of “self-reflection” then land in some highly-paid gig. If he goes out kicking and screaming he will destroy his political relationships and poison his value. Cuomo is probably looking at the precedents. Al Franken resigned and his political career disappeared. He’s not being offered positions as an advisor or pundit. Donald Trump refused to quit and nobody forced him out of office. This is the new political reality; you stay until they drag you out. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/207 "2021-08-03T22:53:53Z")
> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > Is Fox News experiencing a dilemma? Prominent Democrat nailed for sex scandal by Letitia James, who is a lying liar who always lies (at least about Trump). Fox News has no trouble at all with that kind of dissonance. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/208 "2021-08-04T00:25:52Z")
Note how one party quickly called for the resignation of one of its own while the other rallied behind a confessed sexual predator running for president and confirmed another for the Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/209 "2021-08-04T00:28:24Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > > [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#): > > > > Is Fox News experiencing a dilemma? Prominent Democrat nailed for sex scandal by Letitia James, who is a lying liar who always lies (at least about Trump). > > Fox News has no trouble at all with that kind of dissonance. - Yes, this. I’d be surprised if they even mention Letitia James in connection with the Cuomo case. Or if they do, they can probably count on their viewers failing to make a connection with her “persecution” of Trump if unreminded. Right-wing hypocrisy is on full and unashamed display, today—the gleeful crowing about Cuomo is untainted by any mention of the numerous accusations against their golden gods Trump (and to a lesser extent) Matt Gaetz and Brett Kavanaugh. Not that annoyance at their brazen two-facedness can distract me from my conviction that Andrew Cuomo has to go. If he goes kicking and screaming that’s bad. But we can survive the knowledge that _some_ Democrats are awful people, given that demonstrably many Democrats (those calling for Cuomo to go) are decent people. (Chris Cuomo should be let go by CNN, too, by the way: > [@](#): > > … “As hard as it is to see your brother mired in controversy, your obligation as a journalist is to the public you serve,” [Kathleen Culver, director of the Center for Journalism Ethics at the University of Wisconsin-Madison] said. “If it’s true that Chris Cuomo drafted the statement later put out by the governor’s office or he encouraged an approach that emphasized contrition, his involvement was deeper than what he disclosed to viewers in May. …” … > **[New details on Chris Cuomo's advising Gov. Andrew Cuomo on harassment scandal](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-details-emerge-about-how-cnn-anchor-chris-cuomo-advised-n1275839)** > > The attorney general's report on New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo includes communications from his brother, Chris. ) eta–thanks to BobLibDem for his post which reminded me about Kavanaugh. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/210 "2021-08-04T00:42:42Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Unsuprised And angry. This gets really old. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/211 "2021-08-04T01:20:43Z")
It’s simple. Anyone criticizing Cuomo will have an (R) after their name on the chryon. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/212 "2021-08-04T04:14:03Z")
So Biden will turn into an (R), at least for today? ---
**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/213 "2021-08-04T04:19:22Z")
Maybe they will just say ‘The President’ and 1/2 of the impaired turnips will think they mean Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/214 "2021-08-04T08:05:43Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Sure that explains all the cushy jobs that Al Franken has gotten since he was railroaded into resigning in early 2018. Wondering what Anthony Weiner is up to these days, apart from registering as a sex offender wherever he goes. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/215 "2021-08-04T14:02:50Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Wondering what Anthony Weiner is up to these days, > Mr. Weiner has spent most of the last year [running](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/anthony-weiners-comeback-gig) a Brooklyn company called IceStone, which makes environmentally sustainable countertops. He put in place a policy of offering job interviews to formerly incarcerated people. He’s now in the process of stepping down as chief executive, he said, to try to turn the company into a “worker-run cooperative.” He and Ms. Abedin, who still works for Mrs. Clinton, are finalizing their divorce, but they live down the hall from each other in the same apartment building. Mr. Weiner is in a 12-step program for sex addiction, and one of its conditions is that he not talk about it. His life, he said, largely revolves around their 9-year-old son. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/216 "2021-08-04T14:14:11Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Cuomo is probably looking at the precedents. Al Franken resigned and his political career disappeared. He’s not being offered positions as an advisor or pundit. Franken _is_ getting pundit gigs. He’s made a variety of media appearances recently and has a national “tour” going with various stops to do…something or other. “I’m getting almost no pushback,” he told The Daily Beast. “I feel very welcome in the public debate.” > **[Al Franken Is Mounting a Comeback From #MeToo Exile](https://www.thedailybeast.com/al-franken-is-mounting-a-comeback-from-metoo-exile)** > > Nearly three years after sexual misconduct allegations got him pushed out of the Senate, Al Franken has quietly made his return to cable and radio airwaves. The article mentions that a political future for Franken has not been entirely dismissed. If Cuomo manages a semi-graceful exit before being impeached, don’t exclude the possibility of lucrative personal appearances and/or a book somewhere down the line. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/217 "2021-08-04T17:22:52Z")
The fact that Leticia James, who clearly doesn’t play favorites, is going after Cuomo on the sex stuff but not the nursing home stuff is all the proof I need that there’s no there there. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/218 "2021-08-04T18:00:38Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t have the stomach to check, but I wonder how they’re spinning the fact that all prominent Democrats are calling on Cuomo to resign. I wonder if they knew it was even possible to ask a member of your own party to resign when caught doing something wrong. In the past, the Republicans did a decent job of telling their party members when it was time to go. Richard Nixon left when his Republican Senators told him it was time to go. It would be interesting to know how Clinton would fare in 2021. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/219 "2021-08-04T18:43:34Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > In the past, the Republicans did a decent job of telling their party members when it was time to go. _In the past_, Republicans nominated Abe Lincoln. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/220 "2021-08-04T19:43:09Z")
Meanwhile the County DA offices for Albany, Westchester, Nassau and New York Co (Manhattan) have started their own criminal inquiries and asked James for the information on possible crimes committed in their jurisdictions. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/221 "2021-08-05T01:19:39Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The article mentions that a political future for Franken has not been entirely dismissed. > > If Cuomo manages a semi-graceful exit before being impeached, don’t exclude the possibility of lucrative personal appearances and/or a book somewhere down the line. There are some fairly basic differences between Franken and Cuomo. Franken wasn’t accused of abusing his power (as a Senator) to harm the careers of women who complained about his conduct\*, for one thing. Some members of the public will shrug about men groping women, but getting fired because the boss didn’t like you complaining about his groping–that will strike a chord for even the shruggers. Abuse of power is not seen in a friendly light by anyone not in power. (Neither the abuse nor the groping should be acceptable or given a pass, of course.) \*nearly all of which occurred while he was a comedian, not a Senator. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/222 "2021-08-05T12:50:31Z")
On the “resign under pressure” vs “tough it out” spectrum there’s also the example of Senator Larry Craig, who was charged with allegedly soliciting men in an airport bathroom and initially said he would resign when it went public. But he changed his mind and decided to finish out his term, and he was basically treated like he was radioactive by the Republican Caucus. He apparently went on to found a lobby shop that never had more than a couple of clients and folded in 2019. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678.md?page=12)