# Cuomo might be in some trouble \[Gov has resigned\]\[Brother Chris fired by CNN\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 24, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678 "2021-02-24T22:32:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/403 "2021-12-07T11:47:31Z")
They could be internal harassment complaints. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/404 "2021-12-08T04:02:02Z")
It could be anything. But there was an implication between documents released and his firing. If there were internal documents then there is no “release”. They would just be internal documents. And if it IS internal allegations then CNN is a news agency hiding it’s own dirty laundry. What’s the point of firing him if they’re going to cover it up. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2021, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/405 "2021-12-08T11:11:17Z")
In my company, those kinds of allegations can be kept confidential to protect the person who complained – protect their privacy and prevent retaliation. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/406 "2021-12-09T11:49:54Z")
“Not releasing internal personnel documents to the general public” does not constitute “covering it up”. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/407 "2021-12-09T16:26:17Z")
That would be your opinion. CNN is a news agency. They report on public figures. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/408 "2021-12-09T16:59:11Z")
“If you don’t give me everything I demand, you must be hiding something” is not a sound argument, particularly where the demands are based entirely on speculation and may involve documentation covered by legal restrictions. But I understand the need, in the face of a news network actually holding its staff accountable for poor behavior, to reassert the narrative that CNN is just as corrupt and biased as some other news networks are. So do feel free to continue to provide your own opinion on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/409 "2021-12-09T23:40:39Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > But I understand the need, in the face of a news network actually holding its staff accountable for poor behavior, to reassert the narrative that CNN is just as corrupt and biased as some other news networks are. No, they are _worse_ than any of the other networks. They are godawful. Their top two personalities (Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo) are both in hot water for ethics violations, with one already fired. Except Cuomo is now suing CNN because he says he kept Zucker informed of everything he did and Zucker didn’t care. Donna Brazille used her position at CNN to leak the debate questions to Hillary Clinton. CNN is a garbage network and their ratings are showing it. Jake Tapper is about the only real journalist of note they still have. Word is that Warner is going to clean house of all the ‘talent’ and go back to 24/7 straight news - if anyone still trusts them to tell it straight. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/410 "2021-12-09T23:42:35Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > No, they are _worse_ than any of the other networks. Meanwhile, on Fox: > **[Watch Tucker Carlson Originals: Patriot Purge: Season , Episode , "Streaming...](https://nation.foxnews.com/watch/a37dafe2a435b63ba8179e4b935d5b5c/?cmpid=org=nat::ag=mediastorm::mc=cpc::src=google::cmp=brandpmax&utm_source=cpc&utm_medium=google&utm_campaign=brandpmax%2F&gclid=CjwKCAiA78aNBhAlEiwA7B76p4jblXRSSYLy6E0eXEz4S4b2_6MIMhleoCKL8WhIOkYvUGVLzMIb1BoCDr4QAvD_BwE)** > > Tucker Carlson Originals: Patriot Purge - Streaming Now: Patriot Purge: Part 1: Part 1 of 3: The domestic war on terror is here. Tucker explores how the Biden regime is using the Capitol riots on January sixth to paint Americans as terrorists. But... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/411 "2021-12-09T23:59:15Z")
“Your dog smells bad.” “Your dog killed and ate a pair of children.” “Yeah, but your dog smells _really_ bad.” ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/412 "2021-12-10T00:27:45Z")
I’m a bit surprised that you’re pointing toward evening _opinion_ hosts. [Yes: I’ll grant that you also pointed to Jake Tapper, but …] I learned a very long time ago that – after 5PM (my time), there’s no value in watching Fox, MSNBC, **or** CNN. It’s just red meat for the base – pure confirmation bias porn. Nothing to be learned. Nothing to be gained. It would be an interesting exercise (if not thread) to try to compare and contrast the evening opinion hosts of those three major news networks. [and I’ve never tuned into Newsmax or OANN in my life] ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/413 "2021-12-10T01:27:54Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I’m a bit surprised that you’re pointing toward evening _opinion_ hosts. > > [Yes: I’ll grant that you also pointed to Jake Tapper, but …] > > I learned a very long time ago that – after 5PM (my time), there’s no value in watching Fox, MSNBC, **or** CNN. It’s just red meat for the base – pure confirmation bias porn. Nothing to be learned. Nothing to be gained. … The prime-time shows are oriented toward grabbing audiences. No one mistakes those shows—on ANY of the channels named—for news-desks in which anonymous employees read headlines. They’re all about getting ratings. That said, the idea that there is nothing to be gained from watching the shows is clearly not widely-shared. Actual information is presented on some of those shows. Not _mis_information (as on Fox News prime-time) but actual facts and footage, and analysis that many may find helpful toward understanding current events. For example, Yale history professor and author of _On Tyranny_ will be interviewed on Maddow’s show, tonight: > Those who tune in will almost certainly gain something of value. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/414 "2021-12-10T01:43:18Z")
I’ll happily cop to having overstated the case 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/415 "2021-12-10T02:05:28Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I’m a bit surprised that you’re pointing toward evening _opinion_ hosts. Not because of their opinions. Notice I didn’t say anything about Rachel Maddow or any of the other people on MSNBC. CNN is uniquely bad, because they are unethical. They had Chris Cuomo interviewing his own brother, a sitting governor (in Chris Cuomo’s words, the ‘Luv Guv’), and puffing him up like crazy, while helping him discredit the numerous women coming after him for sexual abuse - actually feeding to him CNN’s own internal research into the women. The two of them also mocked people criticizing his pandemic responses. Don Lemon appears to have warned Jussie Smollett that the cops were looking into him, again providing material from CNN’s own sources. Both of them behaved wildly unethically and perhaps criminally, but CNN didn’t do a thing about it until their ratings crashed. They still haven’t done anything to Don Lemon. Donna Brazille tampered with an election process by feeding Hillary Clinton the questions for her Presidential debate. And if tou believe Chris Cuomo’s lawyer, the head of CNN knew what Cuomo was doing was okay with it until he got caught. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/416 "2021-12-10T02:28:21Z")
FWIW Cuomo got fired from his job at CNN. Unlike certain other cable opinionators. [![](https://mediacloud.theweek.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_single-media-image-desktop@1/v1638804791/CjonesRGB12082021.jpg) ](https://mediacloud.theweek.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_single-media-image-desktop@1/v1638804791/CjonesRGB12082021.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/417 "2021-12-10T03:02:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > “If you don’t give me everything I demand, you must be hiding something” is not a sound argument, Chris Cuomo is a news personality who actively worked with his Governor brother to malign those accusing his brother of sexual improprieties. It’s a sound argument to report the news. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/418 "2021-12-10T04:59:13Z")
Yes, provided that in doing so, you don’t break your own contractual privacy terms for your own employees. If there are confidentiality terms built into CNN’s anti-harassment policies (eg a contractual undertaking not to reveal information about the person bringing the harassment complaint), then CNN is limited in what it can report without being in breach of contract. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/419 "2021-12-10T08:28:36Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > CNN is uniquely bad, because they are unethical. Are you operating under a different definition of “unique” than the rest of us? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/420 "2021-12-10T10:15:08Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Chris Cuomo is a news personality who actively worked with his Governor brother to malign those accusing his brother of sexual improprieties. It’s a sound argument to report the news. And you know that because it was reported in the news. The bit you moved the goalposts away from was your unsupported opinion that you therefore had a right to see all the underlying internal documentation. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > CNN is uniquely bad, because they are unethical. FoxNews spent months repeating lies about massive voter fraud and the “stolen election”, multiple times a day. It manufactured fake videos and pictures to exaggerate the violence and damage from the 2020 protests. They openly pushed for Michael Cohen to be prevented from testifying while hiding that Sean Hannity was one of Cohen’s (three!) clients. And that’s just off the top of my head. I mean, we’ve got a whole very long thread dedicated to FoxNews’ issues alone. They commit more ethics violations in a week than CNN does in a year. And unlike CNN, not only do they never hold anyone accountable until threatened with massive legal action, they actively double down on their ethical violations on a regular basis. And you’re apparently fine with that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/421 "2021-12-10T15:32:42Z")
The ethics sins of CNN don’t hold a candle to the ethics sins of Fox News or the other right wing infotainment channels. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/422 "2021-12-10T15:36:41Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Don Lemon appears to have warned Jussie Smollett that the cops were looking into him, again providing material from CNN’s own sources. This is all I know about this allegation, but it doesn’t sound unethical to let someone know the cops are looking for you. “Dude, the police want to talk to you” is pretty common, isn’t it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678.md?page=22)