# Cuomo might be in some trouble \[Gov has resigned\]\[Brother Chris fired by CNN\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 24, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678 "2021-02-24T22:32:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/423 "2021-12-10T16:19:36Z")

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Without pressing too hard on the _whataboutism_ pedal …

I’m not aware of what effect Cuomo’s or Lemon’s alleged actions – wrong though they may well be, and possibly with the malignant complicity of their employers – had on what they did or did not report (reiterating that they’re entertainers first, and not journalists, per se, in their current/former roles).

And those actions – at least in Cuomo’s case – did result in arguably the harshest punishment: termination.

_Should_ he have been allowed to report on his brother in fairly significant stories ? Not IMHO. But this is their opinion/entertainment arena, and ratings and money matter more than journalistic ethics\*

But I am aware of the consequences of the network-sanctioned misinformation put out by FOX (didn’t they also hire Brazile, long after hiring that noted racist, Mark Fuhrman ?), particularly as regards COVID and the 2016 Presidential election.

So … yeah. I’m reminded of the words of the late, great George Carlin:

> I see the radar tonight is picking up a line of thundershowers, which extends from a point 9 miles south-southeast of Chester, Pennsylvania a along line and 6 miles either side of a line to a point 8 miles north-northeast of Secaucus, New Jersey.

> However, the radar is also picking up a squadron of Russian ICBMs (weapons), so I wouldn’t sweat the thundershowers

\*Lest we forget:

> **[You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's...](https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye)**
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> Fox News viewers don't expect facts from Tucker Carlson, according to network lawyers who defended their star in a slander lawsuit filed by a woman who said she had an affair with President Trump.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/424 "2021-12-10T19:00:03Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And you know that because it was reported in the news. The bit you moved the goalposts away from was your unsupported opinion that you therefore had a right to see all the underlying internal documentation.

It’s not a right. It’s news. CNN is in the news business. They should report on what Chris did.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/425 "2021-12-10T19:31:48Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> It’s not a right. It’s news. CNN is in the news business. They should report on what Chris did.

Should they say more than this?

> “After a thorough and careful review of the allegations,” parent company 21st Century Fox said in a statement, “the company and Bill O’Reilly have agreed that Bill O’Reilly will not be returning to the Fox News Channel.”

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/426 "2021-12-10T23:51:07Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> They should report on what Chris did.

Even if that opens them up to contractual damages under their harassment policies?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/427 "2021-12-10T23:52:16Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Should they say more than this?

I could have sworn this thread was about the Cuomo Brothers. As I’m not on Team O’Reilly and this is not a thread about him feel free to start one.

But right now we’re talking about Chris Cuomo’s involvement in his brother’s sexual harassment case.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/428 "2021-12-10T23:54:36Z")

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I hear the fella lost his job over that.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/429 "2021-12-12T05:09:05Z")

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There must be some kind of virus going around at CNN.  
[Chris Cuomo’s CNN producer](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10298845/CNN-employee-accused-luring-mom-daughter-home-train-sexually-submissive.html) is accused of luring mom and nine-year-old daughter to his Vermont ski home to ‘train’ the minor to be sexually submissive

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/430 "2021-12-12T14:09:41Z")

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If that guy took adventage of minors I hope he faces every legal consequence. And that was easy to say! I didn’t have to check in with lawyers or consultants or anything. Golly, I’d never fit in were I to try and become a part of fauxworld.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/431 "2021-12-12T20:26:57Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> . Golly, I’d never fit in were I to try and become a part of fauxworld.

Not a problem. Chris Wallace is moving from Fox News to CNN.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/432 "2021-12-13T22:58:35Z")

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Since CNN seems to prefer hiring sexual predators, maybe they could hire some Lincoln Project guys.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/433 "2021-12-13T23:06:18Z")

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This might be funny if you changed “some Lincoln Project guys” to “Donald Trump”.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/434 "2021-12-13T23:12:00Z")

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Probably wrong forum.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/435 "2021-12-13T23:34:33Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Since CNN seems to prefer hiring sexual predators, maybe they could hire some Lincoln Project guys.

Or Bill O’Reilly?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/436 "2021-12-13T23:54:20Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Since CNN seems to prefer hiring sexual predators, maybe they could hire some Lincoln Project guys.

And this is exactly why I don’t take your position on CNN being the worst all that seriously. Remarks like this show you’re in it to poke fun and aggravate rather than discuss the situation.

Nothing at all suggests that CNN prefers hiring sexual predators. What we see here is that, when they found out someone was a sexual predator, they fired him. That’s the opposite of wanting hire such a person.

These sorts of mocking statements that have a kernel of truth but bend it beyond recognition are exactly what I find so utterly frustrating. It’s ultimately just smear tactics.

And that’s worse than what you’re accusing CNN of. So attacking them rings hollow.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/437 "2021-12-14T00:00:58Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> I learned a very long time ago that – after 5PM (my time), there’s no value in watching Fox, MSNBC, **or** CNN. It’s just red meat for the base – pure confirmation bias porn. Nothing to be learned. Nothing to be gained.

Which is largely why Fox does better ratings-wise than the other two. Their target audience of conservatives is attracted by zero-information confirmation-bias porn, while the liberal audience is turned off by it.

The worse Fox gets, the more conservatives like it; the worse CNN gets, the less liberals like it.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/438 "2021-12-14T00:14:36Z")

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I’ve long said that the same dynamic explains the success of RW talk radio and the failure of LW attempts.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/439 "2021-12-14T03:03:03Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This might be funny if you changed “some Lincoln Project guys” to “Donald Trump”.

Sure. How about, “The Lincoln Project guys, led by Donald Trump with Bill O’Reilly picking up the rear, with Jeffrey Toobin holding the baton?”

This was not meant to be partisan. I was making a joke. Screw all those guys. And you still seem to be mistaking me for a Trump supporter.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/440 "2021-12-14T03:05:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And this is exactly why I don’t take your position on CNN being the worst all that seriously. Remarks like this show you’re in it to poke fun and aggravate rather than discuss the situation.

Jesus. It was a joke. This board is full of jokes, complaints criticisms and snark about Fox News. Surely you can handle a little joke about another network.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/441 "2021-12-14T06:10:24Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> Jesus. It was a joke.

Avoid comedy. You suck at it.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cuomo-might-be-in-some-trouble-gov-has-resigned-brother-chris-fired-by-cnn/933678/442 "2021-12-14T16:19:40Z")

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If the sheet fits, wear it.

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