# Curious about the effect of current news on the lefties of this board...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 27, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870 "2018-06-27T20:15:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/41 "2018-06-29T19:00:45Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> The trouble with democracy is that sometimes the other guy wins.

A big problem the Left has with democracy is that they only like it when they win.  
A big problem the Right has with democracy is that they only like it when they win.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/42 "2018-06-29T19:07:16Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> A big problem the Left has with democracy is that they only like it when they win.  
> A big problem the Right has with democracy is that they only like it when they win.

That’s a very misguided statement.

The left is just fine with democracy, even if things don’t go our way. We encourage people to vote to change that. As long as I am able to vote in free and fair elections, I will accept the results, even if I don’t like them.

The right, OTOH, does have a tendency to play games with the electorate, to keep power even when they are not representing the majority of voters.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/43 "2018-06-29T19:21:54Z")

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I voted no change, but maybe I should have put more likely. Previously, the only way I would have not voted would be if I lost both legs in a car accident on the way to the poll. Now I think I might be able to crawl on my hands the rest of the way.

I think there is a good chance that Ginsburg and Breyer can hold on another couple of years, but if we don’t get back the senate, then I expect Thomas to drop out before Trump leaves office at which point it will be 20 years before the scales of justice have any chance of balancing again.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/44 "2018-06-29T19:30:59Z")

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I hate protests, and now I have to go to another one. Shit! I hate self-righteous speeches even when I totally agree. Maybe _especially_!

March a mile, listen to speeches, march another mile, more speeches, dammit! Weather, thunderstorms or swamp heat, if not both.

Getting too old for this shit, started getting too old when I was twenty. At least I don’t live in Berkeley!

Dammit!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/45 "2018-06-29T19:33:39Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> A big problem the Left has with democracy is that they only like it when they win.  
> A big problem the Right has with democracy is that they only like it when they win.

Only the Right seems to think that their not winning is a problem that needs to be fixed.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/46 "2018-06-29T20:26:53Z")

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Kennedy retiring was always something we thought might happen during Trump’s term. He’s an asshole not to wait a bit longer to be sure that we have the Senate the people want, but it’s not impossible to stall until the election. As such, the election matters even more than it did before.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/47 "2018-06-29T21:22:15Z")

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No Change because I never skip voting.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/48 "2018-06-29T22:51:57Z")

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> [@Celidin](#):
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> I fully intended to vote last week, I fully intend to vote this week.

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> That has to be frustrating.

I read that exact same post and completely failed to see this opening.

I’m confident that a majority would vote for the proposition: _if my brain worked the way Vinyl Turnip’s does, life would be a lot more entertaining._

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curious-about-the-effect-of-current-news-on-the-lefties-of-this-board/816870/49 "2018-06-29T22:55:20Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Kennedy retiring was always something we thought might happen during Trump’s term. He’s an asshole not to wait a bit longer to be sure that we have the Senate the people want, but it’s not impossible to stall until the election. As such, the election matters even more than it did before.

There is apparently more to the story than has yet become common knowledge. Kennedy’s son is intimately connected with Donald Trump’s finances:

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> The younger Mr. Kennedy spent more than a decade at Deutsche Bank, eventually rising to become the bank’s global head of real estate capital markets, and he worked closely with Mr. Trump when he was a real estate developer, according to two people with knowledge of his role. During Mr. Kennedy’s tenure, Deutsche Bank became Mr. Trump’s most important lender, dispensing well over $1 billion in loans to him for the renovation and construction of skyscrapers in New York and Chicago at a time other mainstream banks were wary of doing business with him because of his troubled business history.

[https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a21999314/anthony-kennedy-son-donald-trump-deutche-bank/](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a21999314/anthony-kennedy-son-donald-trump-deutche-bank/)

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