# curlcoat...yet again. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 18, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298 "2012-05-18T10:11:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/181 "2012-05-25T22:00:16Z")
Wow. Did you really think that reply through? Looks like you thought “Hey, they’re accusing me of five crazy behaviors. I know what! I’ll work all five of those into my response, point-by-point. Brilllllliant!” ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/182 "2012-05-25T22:09:17Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > In a multiple page thread, you are capable of remembering everything you posted and in what context? If so, then your memory is better than mine. I’m sorry that my lack of ability to remember all details bothers you so much. There’s this thing called “reading” that you could consider, in lieu of “remembering everything.” ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/183 "2012-05-25T22:34:15Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Wow. > > Did you really think that reply through? Looks like you thought “Hey, they’re accusing me of five crazy behaviors. I know what! I’ll work all five of those into my response, point-by-point. Brilllllliant!” I’m not going to bother with crap like this any more. If you think something I wrote is crazy, you can exert yourself to point out what and why. Since I cannot possibly think down at your level, I’m not going to guess either. > [@MsWhatsit](#): > > There’s this thing called “reading” that you could consider, in lieu of “remembering everything.” Way to provide an example of not reading yourself. Try again. ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/184 "2012-05-25T22:59:24Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Wow. > > Did you really think that reply through? Looks like you thought “Hey, they’re accusing me of five crazy behaviors. I know what! I’ll work all five of those into my response, point-by-point. Brilllllliant!” For reals. **curly** , here are five things, verbatim, that you’ve been accused of, the first two by **Meyer6** and the last three by me: [ol] [li]Her constant habit of telling other people that they’re morons,[/li][li]declaring victory for herself, and crowing about how she’s scared off everyone else with her amazing insights.[/li][li]irrelevant asides[/li][li]I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I reversals[/li][li]requests for proof that she herself never, ever provides[/li][/ol] And here are you demonstrating those five things in [post 180](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15101605&postcount=180): > [@](#): > > \*\*(1)\*\*I know it’s difficult to step out of your comfort zone and area of experience, and in those cases you should just stay out of it. > [@](#): > > **(2)** Speaking of Meyer6, I see once again he’s stepped out of a discussion when I’ve put him in a corner. Seems he’d learn… > [@](#): > > **(3)** I suggest you get over your bias towards those who do not swoon at the altar of the baby, it might help. I could not possibly care less about what you do or do not believe about babies. The only emotion I have concerning the intersection of “baby” and “curlcoat” is relief that you have not reproduced. > [@](#): > > **(4)** You talk about fighting ignorance, yet all you do is attack me for not getting why some/many/most people think every pregnancy is something to celebrate. _N.B._, I’m attacking you because you’re painfully dumb, in general. See above for my take on this specific instance. > [@](#): > > **(5)** Prove it. Like Meyer6, who does everything you just listed but it doesn’t bother you because you agree with him, unless you find some post where I am just doing the pit thing, you won’t be able to find anything like that. Specific enough for you? ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/185 "2012-05-25T23:17:33Z")
At least we finally figured out the mystery of what a baby ever did to **curlie**. From what I get out of the last thread, a man who apparently has a yen for batshit old ladies married our own **curlcoat**. **Curlcoat** notes that his mother did not seem overjoyed- I wonder why. After some time, he tired of trying to get off by waving his dick fruitlessly into the yawning void of the Sahara desert while fending off yapping curs, and he found some fresh young thing who was game to get it on. He gets her knocked up, and she declines his generous offer to pay for an abortion (one does wonder why he, if he was so interested in not having babies with her, chose not to use reliable contraception). When she chooses to have the baby, ex-hubby gets huffy about support and cuts off contact. The mother-in-law, no doubt thrilled at the prospect of having someone someone new to carry on her genes, given that the last generation seems like a wreck, took the girl shopping for baby clothes. You know, for her own grandchild. _Can you imagine?_. The sister-in-law, apparently also completely detached from any human understanding of the world, cut off contact with **curlcoat** ’s ex-mother-in-law because she dared to take the 6-8 month pregnant girl bearing her grandchild shopping rather than treating her like a disease. _And she was more exited about the baby than her son’s marriage to an psychopathic fruitcake_, not that **curlie** cares, of course. No, **curls** was glad to see him go. The marriage was on the rocks anyway. He was an abusive asshole. The pregnancy didn’t break up their marriage at all. My armchair psychologist skills say that **curls** wants pregnant women to suffer because she wants that girl to suffer (not that she cares.) She sees in young, happy, fertile women her own failed dreams. And rather than manning up and dealing with her emotions, she’s hidden from the world and decided to spew them with hate. And she is baffled, baffled, why the rest of us can keep living in a world where love, support and hope are real to us. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/186 "2012-05-26T00:34:15Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > all you do is attack me for not getting why some/many/most people think every pregnancy is something to celebrate. I know it’s difficult to step out of your comfort zone and area of experience, and in those cases you should just stay out of it. Wrong. Nobody has ever, ever attacked you for not thinking every pregnancy is great or for not personally loving babies. People have attacked you because you are utterly incapable of understanding that \*you \*are not the arbiter of what is and isn’t a good pregnancy, or what is and isn’t an appropriate reaction to someone else’s pregnancy. You are also incapable of understanding that human beings can have multiple, complex emotions and can hide some of their thoughts from others. No amount of explaining can get this concept through your thick, thick skull. > [@](#): > > Speaking of **Meyer6** , I see once again he’s stepped out of a discussion when I’ve put him in a corner. Seems he’d learn… Wrong again, chuckles. I’ve been reading along but gave up on commenting because it seemed pointless. I love how you always believe that you’ve got me in a corner or that you’ve got me running away with my tail between my legs. It’s never happened. Ever. Conversation with you is just an endless circle, so replying to you becomes a total waste of time. What, am I supposed to comment forever? I do have other things to do. By the way, seeing as you have such a hatred hard-on for me, I would think by now you might be able to remember that I’m female, not male. > [@quixotic78](#): > > Specific enough for you? Highly unlikely. Curlie never admits defeat, and ‘you never provide proof’ is one of her favourite claims, despite the fact that is demonstrably false. She’ll come back and whine about how you cut her posts, or misinterpreted her posts, or god knows what else. Nothing is ever her fault, and she is never wrong. Also note that she never provides proof of her batshit claims, despite the fact that she demands it from everyone else. I appreciate the effort though. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/187 "2012-05-26T02:29:32Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Way to provide an example of not reading yourself. Try again. Is it hard to clean the hate spew off the keyboard from where you’ve spattered it everywhere with your helpless flapping at the keys? Or do you just keep a supply of wet wipes handy for the purpose? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/188 "2012-05-26T22:46:20Z")
> [@quixotic78](#): > > For reals. **curly** , here are five things, verbatim, that you’ve been accused of, the first two by **Meyer6** and the last three by me: 1. OK, so you feel that me saying that it’s hard to step out of one’s comfort zone is the same thing as calling someone a moron? That’s pretty sad. 2. Yeah, you got me on #2 tho I don’t really do that very often. Certainly not as often as you all do. 3. That is certainly not an irrelevant aside. If you think it is, you really have no idea what the subject is. 4. is not what you seem to think it is. > [@](#): > > _N.B._, I’m attacking you because you’re painfully dumb, in general. If that is really your motivation, what are you doing on a board that is supposed to be fighting ignorance? I mean, in the forums other than the Pit? 1. Obviously not true since I provided a link in this thread or the other one very recently. Also, in **Meyer6** ’s case, he makes wildly negative statements about me, then never has the balls to back up his lies. Even when he does very occasionally manage to point to a sentence I’ve posted, his interpretation is so wrong that I have to assume he is either joking or is really that sensitive/biased. > [@even\_sven](#): > > At least we finally figured out the mystery of what a baby ever did to **curlie**. > > From what I get out of the last thread, a man who apparently has a yen for batshit old ladies married our own **curlcoat**. **Curlcoat** notes that his mother did not seem overjoyed- I wonder why. That is what you get out of the bad idea pregnancies thread? Wow. Not only is that a small example to illustrate a point, you got it totally wrong! Amazing. I find it funny that every one in that story who wasn’t thrilled by the prospect of of ex-MIL ignoring the family’s feelings in favor of her selfish desire to have a grandson _right now_ had to be “completely detached from any human understanding of the world” or “a wreck”. Even her other son and his wife, not to mention her own husband? > [@](#): > > My armchair psychologist skills … …suck. Why would I care a fig about the new girl friend of my soon to be ex husband? > [@](#): > > She sees in young, happy, fertile women her own failed dreams. Say _what_? I’m the one who has been trained to not like children, and even way back then I was pretty neutral about them. How in God’s green earth can you possibly think I ever had a dream to have babies? Or are you talking about my ex? The marriage that only lasted two years? The divorce that was over 25 years ago? Not only are you attaching way too much importance to his bastard child, you are doing the same to him. Huh. Weird. > [@](#): > > And rather than manning up and dealing with her emotions, she’s hidden from the world and decided to spew them with hate. And she is baffled, baffled, why the rest of us can keep living in a world where love, support and hope are real to us. Uh huh. Because I don’t like babies and don’t understand the fascination with every pregnancy no matter what the circumstances (and am not alone in that opinion), I’m burying old hurts and spewing hate. Except, I’m not, you are. What’s your old buried secret? As for love, support and hope, the people I love and care for show it by doing other than hiding our concerns under a facade of whatever the public things we should be doing. We are far more interested in taking care of each other and doing what is best for each other than what any random stranger might think. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/189 "2012-05-26T23:03:59Z")
No, curlcoat, you’re the one who eternally doesn’t seem to understand what the topic is. No one gives a shit that you don’t like babies. People give a shit that you’ve used that dislike of babies to act like assholes to every pregnant person. People care that you intentionally malign everyone who is actually being a decent person and not going around sharing their offensive views when it is irrelevant and serves no purpose but to make you feel better. And, let’s not forget, this thing you do to pregnant people is far from the only thing we have to hate about you. If this were just one foible in an otherwise decent person, we’d move on, like we have for some of the other people who act like this. But, no, your posts have always been hate-filled, and thus your constant need to spew your hatred for babies is just one more confirmation of the pattern that you are a horrible person. It’s kinda sad that I do a better job defending myself than you do. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/190 "2012-05-26T23:09:50Z")
See, quixotic78, I told you that no amount of well reasoned posting would get through to her. She’ll have a special hatred for you now, because she can’t stand anyone who proves her wrong. Join the club - you can sit over here by me. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/191 "2012-05-27T01:17:01Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Because I don’t like babies and don’t understand the fascination with every pregnancy no matter what the circumstances ( **and am not alone in that opinion** ), I’m burying old hurts and spewing hate. Your one ally is the person that would win “Most batshit poster on the Dope” in a landslide. That is not really something you want to crow about. ---
**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/192 "2012-05-27T02:33:21Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > See, quixotic78, I told you that no amount of well reasoned posting would get through to her. She’ll have a special hatred for you now, because she can’t stand anyone who proves her wrong. Join the club - you can sit over here by me. Oh, I know. I’ve danced with curly before, and I know deep down it’s pointless. But hey, I posted anyway and made her look like a total idiot. I know it’s not the sort of thing a person should be proud of – after all, a reasonably intelligent gerbil could successfully point out her idiocy most days – but I do take a little bit of glee in the fact that _she thinks she’s making everyone else look foolish_. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/193 "2012-05-27T04:28:07Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > People give a shit that you’ve used that dislike of babies to act like assholes to every pregnant person. Provide proof that I have ever done that. > [@](#): > > People care that you intentionally malign everyone who is actually being a decent person and not going around sharing their offensive views when it is irrelevant and serves no purpose but to make you feel better. Provide proof that I have ever done that. > [@](#): > > But, no, your posts have always been hate-filled, and thus your constant need to spew your hatred for babies is just one more confirmation of the pattern that you are a horrible person. Again, provide proof. > [@](#): > > It’s kinda sad that I do a better job defending myself than you do. Well, I don’t know why it would be sad, but since it didn’t happen that’s kind of moot. See, you all have so much sensitivity to this subject that your response to me questioning your right to have as many babies as you want, whenever you want results in you making up things like me acting like an “assholes (sic) to every pregnant person”. Which _if_ I have done even once, would have been for reasons other than the mere fact they were pregnant. No, what is more likely is that you assume because I question their right to bring babies into bad situations, that I go around doing what? Yelling at pregnant EBT users? I really don’t know what you’ve managed to conjure up here because my mind simply cannot make those sorts of illogical jumps. Well, we won’t see proof - far easier to just try to shout down someone whose opinions you don’t like than actually back up your position, eh? > [@Meyer6](#): > > See, quixotic78, I told you that no amount of well reasoned posting would get through to her. She’ll have a special hatred for you now, because she can’t stand anyone who proves her wrong. Join the club - you can sit over here by me. The difference between me and folks like you is that I don’t hate anyone here. That would simply require too much effort on my part - I mean, c’mon, strangers on the internet? As for **quixotic78** ’s post being reasoned - if that is what you consider reasoned, I suppose that explains a lot about how you just don’t get the opposing view. > [@Loach](#): > > Your one ally is the person that would win “Most batshit poster on the Dope” in a landslide. That is not really something you want to crow about. Well, since there wasn’t just one person who agreed with some or all of what I had to say in the bad pregnancies thread, I guess you’ll have to specify with one you consider to be “Most batshit poster on the Dope”. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/194 "2012-05-27T07:23:58Z")
> [@quixotic78](#): > > Oh, I know. I’ve danced with curly before, and I know deep down it’s pointless. But hey, I posted anyway and made her look like a total idiot. I know it’s not the sort of thing a person should be proud of – after all, a reasonably intelligent gerbil could successfully point out her idiocy most days – but I do take a little bit of glee in the fact that _she thinks she’s making everyone else look foolish_. I know, there’s a certain weird satisfaction to it, isn’t there? Then you can just watch her spin out of control and freak out while simultaneously claiming that she is cool as a cucumber and doesn’t have any emotional investment. It’s so predictable! The fact that she thinks she’s cogent tickles me too. Although sometimes I do wonder if she really believes that she is taking the high road and coming out on top in most arguments. I suppose it’s a pretty fine line between plain stupidity and trolling, so we may never know. One of the mysteries of the internet. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/195 "2012-05-27T12:38:08Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > you can sit over here by me Careful, I hear holding hands can get one pregnant. By the way, Starving Artist still wins batshittiest poster on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/196 "2012-05-27T12:41:50Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > By the way, Starving Artist still wins batshittiest poster on the Dope. You think? I don’t think he would make my finals list. And that’s only posters who are crazy, not obnoxious. That is a separate list. (And you aren’t on either 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/197 "2012-05-27T13:10:39Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > You think? I don’t think he would make my finals list. > > And that’s only posters who are crazy, not obnoxious. That is a separate list. > > (And you aren’t on either 🙂 ) Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/198 "2012-05-27T13:41:23Z")
Well, the distinction between “crazy” and “dickish” is important. His fervent belief in the sanctity of Paterno regardless of the facts did lead me to doubt his grasp on reality and his concern for normal modes of discussion though. Thanks, by the way. Neither of you are on my secret lists of crazy or obnoxious posters either! I do cherish them though, reminds me of how varied we all are. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/199 "2012-05-29T03:27:01Z")
You guys are amazing. How can you really call people crazy, much less batshit crazy, just because you have a different opinion on something? It’s no wonder we have so many people with such a well developed sense of entitlement these days. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2012, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/200 "2012-05-29T11:15:42Z")
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