# curlcoat...yet again. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 18, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298 "2012-05-18T10:11:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/321 "2012-06-05T17:28:23Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I have had to use self-defense before is situations involving very young muggers. Trust me, neither the police or the ADA considered them innocent little children. Since daddy asshole was, physically if not mentally, an adult male, it would have probably been even easier for me to skate if I had done something to him. For the men in the neighborhood, it would have come down to a laws regarding a neighborhood brawl. Are you seriously comparing _children playing noisily in their yards_ to _someone trying to mug you??_ :eek: Seriously, I feel like I should be saving a hard copy of your posts on the Dope for your eventual commitment hearing. ---
**Author:** ![perfectparanoia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@perfectparanoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/perfectparanoia)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/322 "2012-06-05T17:30:26Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > People should not be forced to wear earplugs 24 hours a day in order to enjoy peace and quiet in their own homes. If you want peace and quiet at all hours of the day and night, you will need to move to the country. I was woken up this morning (as I am every Tuesday) to the sounds of the groundscrew for our complex cutting lawns, trimming trees and blowing leaves. They start at 7 (as is legal in our city according to noise ordinances) and I don’t get up until 8:30. You know what? That’s life. People on the weekends when I am trying to sleep in will be using power tools or chatting starting at about 8 am. Again, that’s life. When there are kids out playing and I’d like to take a nap, given that the playground is right behind our house, even if they are merely talking at reasonable levels, I won’t be able to without closing all my windows and putting on a white noise machine (I hate earplugs, can’t sleep in them). That is the price I pay for living in a densly populated area. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/323 "2012-06-05T17:31:34Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > STAY AWAY FROM CHILDREN. > > Don’t go within twenty feet of a kid. Or anyplace where there are likely to be kids including schools, hospitals, public parks, supermarkets or anywhere else. Move to an adults only community and stay there. > > :rolleyes: > > The only fucking psychopath here is you. You are clearly a threat to anyone under age 18 and should be treated as such. Does no one allegedly raising children having any concept of teaching them civil behavior and community responsibility? I’ve raised several kids and they are all productive, well-behaved, responsible citizens, not delinquents or criminals. I can’t say this about many of the other brats I encounter. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/324 "2012-06-05T17:33:48Z")
> [@LeeshaJoy](#): > > Are you seriously comparing _children playing noisily in their yards_ to _someone trying to mug you??_ :eek: > > Seriously, I feel like I should be saving a hard copy of your posts on the Dope for your eventual commitment hearing. Excessive noise can be more violent and hostile an act than robbery. ---
**Author:** ![LeeshaJoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LeeshaJoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LeeshaJoy)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/325 "2012-06-05T17:34:41Z")
> [@zpg zealot](#): > > excessive noise can be more violent and hostile an act than robbery. \*\*Children playing are not being violent or hostile. Threatening to beat up their parents for letting them play IS violent and hostile.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/326 "2012-06-05T17:42:19Z")
> [@LeeshaJoy](#): > > Are you seriously comparing _children playing noisily in their yards_ to _someone trying to mug you??_ :eek: > > Seriously, I feel like I should be saving a hard copy of your posts on the Dope for your eventual commitment hearing. Yeah me too. > [@LeeshaJoy](#): > > Considering she’s threatening to beat up the _parents,_ I don’t know that “under age 18” is necessary there. True. > [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Does no one allegedly raising children having any concept of teaching them civil behavior and community responsibility? I’ve raised several kids and they are all productive, well-behaved, responsible citizens, not delinquents or criminals. I can’t say this about many of the other brats I encounter. Have they all been raised not to rape you with a handshake? :dubious: > [@LeeshaJoy](#): > > \*\*Children playing are not being violent or hostile. > > Threatening to beat up their parents for letting them play IS violent and hostile.\*\* And crazy and stupid. If it weren’t for the fact that my next door neighbor is a Norwegian I’d wonder if she were her. Last week it was 90 degrees. So my daughter gets home from school and announces she’s hot. We go hang out in the backyard playing a game to see who can get other more wet. My daughter was laughing. Crazy neighbor sees us, gives us a dirty look and immediately gets out her fucking leaf blower. She walks it back and forth in her backyard as we’re outside having fun. Because a child’s laughter is just like the sound of a car alarm to some crazy assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/327 "2012-06-05T17:43:05Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Does no one allegedly raising children having any concept of teaching them civil behavior and community responsibility? I’ve raised several kids and they are all productive, well-behaved, responsible citizens, not delinquents or criminals. I can’t say this about many of the other brats I encounter. Your own posts indicate that your behaviour is neither an example of civil behaviour nor do you seem to bear any community responsibility. Secondly, anyone who purports to allegedly have “raised several children” should know first-hand that they weren’t always productive, well-behaved, responsible children. You aren’t my crazy next door neighbour, are you? The one who yells at cats, and barks at the dogs too? ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/328 "2012-06-05T17:45:52Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Excessive noise can be more violent and hostile an act than robbery. You’re fucking insane. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/329 "2012-06-05T18:19:22Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > You’re fucking insane. Just jealous of all the attention curlcoat is getting. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/330 "2012-06-05T18:43:17Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > I’ve raised several kids and they are all productive, well-behaved, responsible citizens, not delinquents or criminals. Really? I seem to remember that your young nephew screwed the brains out of an underage girl and took compromising photos of her while he was in your care, making him a statutory rapist and possibly child pornographer. Doesn’t that count as a delinquent? You seemed pretty concerned about it at the time. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/331 "2012-06-05T19:50:02Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > Really? I seem to remember that your young nephew screwed the brains out of an underage girl and took compromising photos of her while he was in your care, making him a statutory rapist and possibly child pornographer. Doesn’t that count as a delinquent? You seemed pretty concerned about it at the time. Ok, so he’s a rapist and child pornographer - at least he doesn’t play loudly at the park. Jesus, have some perspective **Meyer6**. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/332 "2012-06-05T19:55:46Z")
**ZPGZealot** - Noise is not a physical assault. Noise is not a violation of your Constitutional rights. Noise is not an excuse to physically attack someone, whether that someone is the parent of a child making the noise, or the child making the noise. Noise is not an excuse to seriously discuss using other people as attack dogs, as you stated in your original whackadoo post. There’s really no way you can swing this so that you look normal and sane to anyone other than your equally-bugfucking-insane neighbors, so just rest assured that the rest of the world knows that you’re a fucking lunatic not because of your culture, or because of your socio-economic status, or any other demographic excuse you want to use, but because you are actually insane. How you are able to walk around in the world without running afoul of the law to the extent that you end up in psychiatric care continues to astound me. At this point, I’m really not even posting to interact with you, since you are incapable of human logical thought. I’m just going to continue to point out that you are on record as supporting the physical assault of parents whose children behave in ways you don’t like, and using other people to attack those children. In addition to what **Meyer6** pointed out about your nephew, I recall that you wanted to report the girl involved for statutory rape in order to protect your nephew. You also have posted that you don’t think love is an emotion that’s necessary in raising children, and that you think children are better off dead than adopted. You, like **curlcoat** , have a pathological hatred of children. Regardless of what you tell yourself, almost all of your beliefs involve treating children horrifically for no logical reason. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/333 "2012-06-05T20:04:47Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > Ok, so he’s a rapist and child pornographer - at least he doesn’t play loudly at the park. > > Jesus, have some perspective **Meyer6**. True, it’s obviously much better to be a rapist than to be slightly noisy. And it’s obviously just as reasonable to beat your neighbours to a bloody pulp over a minor conflict as it is to accuse a young girl of rape and potentially ruin her life over a teenage fling. Welcome to the ZPG school of logic. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/334 "2012-06-05T20:17:11Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Does no one allegedly raising children having any concept of teaching them civil behavior and community responsibility? You are absolutely right that people should do this; I don’t know how anyone could reaosnably argue with you. For instance, I have taught my child: 1. She should not engage in a criminal conspiracy to have other people physically battered, or advocate such activities. 2. She should not steal money from other people by engaging in fraudulent activities, such as “fortune telling.” 3. She should treat people of all backgrounds and cultures with decency, irrespective of their background, such as, say, whether or not they were adopted. How are you doing on these points? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/335 "2012-06-05T21:02:11Z")
This thread keeps getting weirder and weirder. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/336 "2012-06-05T21:36:25Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > Really? I seem to remember that your young nephew screwed the brains out of an underage girl and took compromising photos of her while he was in your care, making him a statutory rapist and possibly child pornographer. Doesn’t that count as a delinquent? You seemed pretty concerned about it at the time. That is a pack of lies. They were both the same age. He was under the age of consent, so any penetrative sexual activity he could not legally consent to. He did not take any photos of her that I, my attorney, or any investigating body could find probably because he had been severely punished and warned about making such a stupid mistake. She did however send nude photos of breasts and a vagina (I don’t know if they were hers, but probability leans toward that) to him. All of which was handed over to the police by our family’s lawyer. All of which became very useful when a few weeks later her father tried to claim my nephew assaulted his little princess brat. What the police and the prosecutor wish to do with the photos obtained from the laptop and the anything they can salvage from the remains of the cell, I have not heard. ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/337 "2012-06-05T21:52:43Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > That is a pack of lies. They were both the same age. He was under the age of consent, so any penetrative sexual activity he could not legally consent to. And she was under the age of consent too, making him a rapist. And okay, he (maybe) didn’t take pictures of her, he was just in possession of child pornography. Wow, that’s so much better. Look, I don’t actually think two 16 year old screwing is a problem, but you clearly feel differently. Thus you cannot claim that your nephew is upstanding and non-criminal, since you yourself accused him of criminal activity. > [@](#): > > All of which became very useful when a few weeks later her father tried to claim my nephew assaulted his little princess brat. Yeah right, you would have been crowing about it all over the board if this actually happened. Your paranoia and desire to destroy the life of an innocent girl for daring to be white would have been totally justified. How convenient! Anyways, why didn’t you just dispatch some neighbourhood thugs to go beat the snot out of this girls father? Surely that would have been the responsible, well-behaved reaction in your mind. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/338 "2012-06-05T21:52:44Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > You are absolutely right that people should do this; I don’t know how anyone could reaosnably argue with you. > > For instance, I have taught my child: > > 1. She should not engage in a criminal conspiracy to have other people physically battered, or advocate such activities. > > 2. She should not steal money from other people by engaging in fraudulent activities, such as “fortune telling.” > > 3. She should treat people of all backgrounds and cultures with decency, irrespective of their background, such as, say, whether or not they were adopted. > > How are you doing on these points? I have taught the children in my care: 1.) When the police cannot help you, the community has to help itself. This is not a thing to done lightly and should be thought over and discussed. However it is morally wrong, to let one person ruin the lives of many others. 2.) You have a right to compensated for the work you do. 3.) If someone lies about something as important as who their mother and father are, they probably can’t be trusted with anything. And it’s wrong to steal children (though that’s getting into another thread topic) ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/339 "2012-06-05T22:00:25Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Excessive noise can be more violent and hostile an act than robbery. Okay, so excessive noise is more violent and hostile than robbery, shaking a woman’s hand is the equivalent of sexual assault, and killing an unmarried pregnant woman who is seeking child support from the killer should be considered justifiable homicide. You have some _very_ interesting views on jurisprudence. ETA: :smack: I totally forgot about stealing children! What is that, adoption? ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/340 "2012-06-05T22:04:00Z")
> [@Meyer6](#): > > And she was under the age of consent too, making him a rapist. And okay, he (maybe) didn’t take pictures of her, he was just in possession of child pornography. Wow, that’s so much better. > > Look, I don’t actually think two 16 year old screwing is a problem, but you clearly feel differently. Thus you cannot claim that your nephew is upstanding and non-criminal, since you yourself accused him of criminal activity. > > Yeah right, you would have been crowing about it all over the board if this actually happened. Your paranoia and desire to destroy the life of an innocent girl for daring to be white would have been totally justified. How convenient! Anyways, why didn’t you just dispatch some neighbourhood thugs to go beat the snot out of this girls father? Surely that would have been the responsible, well-behaved response in your mind. So, if a pedophile emails your daughter a picture of his penis, we should lock her up for possessing child pornography? Sorry, that I didn’t update the board about what happened, but I didn’t know you were waiting with baited breath. Since then the “innocent” little white girl has been put on in-school suspension (basically they take all their classes in a separate correctional wing) for what I don’t know my nephew wasn’t involved. I suspect the girl’s father simply wanted her separated from large groups of boys for a while. And I didn’t have to dispatch some neighbourhood thugs to beat the snot out of that girls’ father because the police did their jobs. If only the police had done their jobs with the asshole neighbors, the rest of the neighborhood would not have had to contemplate beating someone up. As is I think the heavy metal apocalypse party was a nicer solution, but perhaps you’re right, next time, I let the men get medieveal on somebody when they get mad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298.md?page=18)