# curlcoat...yet again. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 18, 2012, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298 "2012-05-18T10:11:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/81 "2012-05-20T01:19:55Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Have you ever gone to a wedding and thought my god these two are going to be divorced in two years? Or thought the groom or bride was a moron unworthy of marrying anyone? What did you do? Tell everyone there you thought it was a bad idea? Or did you just smile, eat, dance and tell both people congratulations? I’ve known people to conceal reservations about bad ideas and practices in the workplace because they fear being seen as a Jonah. When you make negative predictions, you run the risk of being associated with the negative outcome. “No wonder my marriage ended in divorce, you jinxed it!” “No wonder the project was a failure, you undermined it!” “No wonder my kid turned out to be a crackhead, you never supported my decisions!” > [@](#): > > I have no idea why **Curlcoat** or you can’t seem to understand simple, polite human behavior. curlcoat’s pretty stupid. Dunno about enipla. ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/82 "2012-05-20T01:21:50Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I don’t know what you mean. You snipped out: Not as in the pro choice sense. In the “the Chinese government doesn’t go far enough” sense. Abortion for abortion’s sake is repugnant, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/83 "2012-05-20T01:25:09Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > You snipped out: Not as in the pro choice sense. In the “the Chinese government doesn’t go far enough” sense. > > Abortion for abortion’s sake is repugnant, IMO. I’m pretty sure you’re getting whooshed. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/84 "2012-05-20T01:25:17Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > You snipped out: Not as in the pro choice sense. In the “the Chinese government doesn’t go far enough” sense. > > Abortion for abortion’s sake is repugnant, IMO. Ah, I see. I snipped out that part because I thought it was redundant, that the germane issue was that **curlcoat** apparently is pro-abortion, as in she thinks people should not only have the choice to have an abortion, but she actively supports more people having abortions. I don’t see anything wrong with that position - it’s not like she’s going out and stabbing pregnant women in the bellies. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/85 "2012-05-20T01:28:21Z")
There’s a difference between supporting a person who wants to have an abortion and judgemently thinking a specific person should be having them. One is supporting the choice someone is making, the other is making judgements about the choices they choose to make. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/86 "2012-05-20T01:29:15Z")
For those wanting some examples of **curlcoat** ’s opinions on children: [Here’s a 45-page thread for you.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=512715) **Curlcoat** ’s participation starts on page 10. Knock yourself out. Or maybe this one, only 7 pages for those of you lacking in free time: [About abortion and child support.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=505699) Or maybe this 46-pager is more to your liking: [Anything else you motherfuckers need?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=524753) ( **curlcoat** arrives on page 9.) That should probably do you for now. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/87 "2012-05-20T01:49:20Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > There’s a difference between supporting a person who wants to have an abortion and judgemently thinking a specific person should be having them. One is supporting the choice someone is making, the other is making judgements about the choices they choose to make. I see the difference, but I still don’t think it’s a big deal to think more people should get abortions. You can think anything you like; it doesn’t make someone have an abortion if **curlcoat** thinks they should. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/88 "2012-05-20T02:08:33Z")
> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#): > > You snipped out: Not as in the pro choice sense. In the “the Chinese government doesn’t go far enough” sense. > > Abortion for abortion’s sake is repugnant, IMO. Pretending that having a baby is good thing, when it isn’t is repugnant, IMO ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/89 "2012-05-20T02:58:39Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Pretending that having a baby is good thing, when it isn’t is repugnant, IMO See, yeah, that’s been covered. A bunch of times. It’s something many people do because they’d rather not be seen as raging assholes. Anyway, next time you see a pregnant stranger in public, why not just march right up and tell her about how she should have an abortion. Be insistent, seeing how you know better than she does. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/90 "2012-05-20T04:15:38Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > …I still don’t think it’s a big deal… Have you read \*ANY \*of _ **curly** _’s anti-child, anti-parent snide remarks? How 'bout: > [@](#): > > My world would be better off without [children] - why would that be sad? And I do believe the world in general would be better off without so many children, which I also can’t understand why you would consider to be sad given how quickly our resources are being used up. Which isn’t an issue for me since it won’t happen before I die and I don’t have any kids to worry about the sort of world I’m leaving for them. Or: > [@](#): > > Oh please. _You_ chose to have a baby, then _you_ chose to take it on an airplane and then _you_ chose to not buy it a seat and then dare to complain about the “difficulty” the airline put you thru?.. But then, that is what mothers do these days, isn’t it? From the same thread: > [@](#): > > You know what? If a mentally handicapped person is making the sort of disturbance that a baby or toddler can on a plane, the airline is very likely to remove them. How often have they removed a screaming baby or a toddler that won’t sit in their seat? [_That_ attitude](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14983351&postcount=75) went on for pages and pages, until finally someone had enough: > [@](#): > > Anyways, unless you have something new to say that falls into a category other than “I hate all children everywhere”, “when I was a kid everything was better”, or “I’m being unfairly persecuted by these meanies because they won’t let me express my hatred without commenting on it”, I’m out. This thread has been turned into the _ **curlcoat** _ show long enough, time to let it die. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/91 "2012-05-20T05:28:15Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Pretending that having a baby is good thing, when it isn’t is repugnant, IMO I need some kind of scale to judge this on. Is it more repugnant than shaking your hand or less repugnant than shaking your hand? ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/92 "2012-05-20T07:44:16Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > In the “the Chinese government doesn’t go far enough” sense. Now that’d be interesting. Wonder if curlcoat could stomach an 86% industrial tax rate in order that abortions are mandated. Cat Whisperer, you seem relatively sane. Are you aware of [this](http://www.gendercide.org/case_infanticide.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/93 "2012-05-20T08:32:34Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Have you read \*ANY \*of _ **curly** _’s anti-child, anti-parent snide remarks? It’s not just the snide remarks (although those are good examples), it’s that \*\*curlcoat \*\*is just mind-numbingly, astonishingly stupid. Really, hers is stupidity on an unprecedented level. There are other dopers who cling to strange opinions, or have occasional dopey moments, or think they’re a lot smarter than they really are. But there are very few who are genuinely as half-witted as her. This effect is compounded by her constant habit of telling other people that they’re morons, declaring victory for herself, and crowing about how she’s scared off everyone else with her amazing insights. Her OP in the ‘bad idea pregnancy’ thread was actually not that bad, it was her later comments that got dumb. She refuses to accept the idea that sometimes people might just be being polite about a pregnancy, or that her child-hater stance might make people unwilling to share their misgivings about pregnancy with her, or even that the universal celebration of pregnant ladies doesn’t even exist. Hence the pitting. I will admit that many of the responses she got were driven by her past posting history. Her feelings about babies (and poor people, and all kinds of other things) are well known, so she’s not going to be able to start a thread about pregnancy without people referencing her past comments. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/94 "2012-05-20T11:30:38Z")
> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#): > > Pretending that having a baby is good thing, when it isn’t is repugnant, IMO Once again, just so it’s on the permanent record, you are fucking insane. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/95 "2012-05-20T12:58:50Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > I have no idea why **Curlcoat** or you can’t seem to understand simple, polite human behavior. :rolleyes: Simple polite behavior is fine. And is what is called for. Overzealous joy in some cases is not. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/96 "2012-05-20T13:18:06Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > Once again, just so it’s on the permanent record, you are fucking insane. Noted ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/97 "2012-05-20T13:26:53Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > :rolleyes: Simple polite behavior is fine. And is what is called for. Overzealous joy in some cases is not. Part of the thread was questioning the premise: how much “overzealous joy” is she really seeing? Is it something we’d characterize as polite ethusiasm, but to her, over the top? ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/98 "2012-05-20T14:25:16Z")
I blame the napkin sandwiches. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/99 "2012-05-20T14:40:04Z")
I’m starting to think that **curlcoat** is a combination of my mother, who is isolated enough that she doesn’t really understand polite social interaction, and my grandmother, who mused out loud (completely apropos of nothing, I might add) that I should use my hernia surgery to get my tubes tied as long as the surgeon was poking around in there anyway. :eek: And, to be honest, curly’s postings are so predictable that they don’t even generate a WTF anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298/100 "2012-05-20T15:13:37Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I see the difference, but I still don’t think it’s a big deal to think more people should get abortions. You can think anything you like; it doesn’t make someone have an abortion if **curlcoat** thinks they should. Do you see the difference between pro choice and pro some people should be made to get abortions? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curlcoat-yet-again/622298.md?page=6)