# Curt Schilling is still an asshole

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**Created:** [September 28, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836 "2023-09-28T22:20:33Z")
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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/21 "2023-09-29T05:10:32Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> And of course he and his kind will ask “what did I do wrong”.

Failed to read and/or understand the Bible, that he and his fellow travellers like to wave about like a magic talisman without the first clue about what it contains.

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### Author: ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/22 "2023-09-29T06:33:00Z")

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Ignorance fought: Curt Schilling is a colossal asshole.

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/23 "2023-09-29T13:02:07Z")

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That link is completely unreadable with all the blinking shit on the banner and side bar. Just sayin’

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/24 "2023-09-29T13:23:38Z")

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Wasn’t Curt Schilling accused of intentionally trying to hit batters just to try to start trouble? I distantly remember there was something like that a few decades back. That and something about his apology having racist/ anti-semitic dog whistles in it.

I don’t remember it clearly; just that Curt Schilling was clearly in the ‘Ty Cobb’ class of baseball players.

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#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/25 "2023-09-29T14:20:21Z")

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Schilling also like to pontificate endlessly about other players using steroids, which makes it damn near a certainty that he used P.E.D.s throughout his career.

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### Author: ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/26 "2023-09-29T16:58:15Z")

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I don’t really know what a Schilling is, but Keith Olbermann on his Countdown podcast has been ripping him lately.

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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/27 "2023-09-29T17:31:20Z")

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> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#):
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> I don’t really know what a Schilling is

It’s one twentieth of a pound, or twelve pence.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/28 "2023-09-29T18:41:37Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It’s one twentieth of a pound, or twelve pence.

\< Somewhere in Indiana \>

" Mother… _Mother_…! "

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### Author: ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/29 "2023-09-29T21:37:28Z")

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As a Mets fan I know Tim Wakefield helped the Red Sox beat the fucking Yankees in 2004 (ETA:) **ALCS** (not theWorld Series). A good knuckleball is either impossible to hit or if you make contact it’s going a long, long way. He was one of the few good tossers of that pitch I recall - not having seen much of Phil Niekro. He couldn’t hit so the AL was the place for him,

Sorry to hear about his and his wife’s health problems.

Shilling was and is an asshole of the highest degree and should never, ever make it to Cooperstown.

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### Author: ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/30 "2023-09-29T21:48:46Z")

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I suppose Schilling’s obvious desire for fame has been achieved, I’d never heard of him before this thread.

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### Author: ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/31 "2023-09-29T21:54:20Z")

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He is a member of the 3000 strike out club.

Most of that club are in Cooperstown. He was great player. An awful human being, but a great player.

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### Author: ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/32 "2023-09-29T22:21:59Z")

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He’s borderline for the Hall. But voters are permitted to consider character issues, so he should get in only after they induct Fidel Castro. Did Hitler play baseball? Only after him, too.

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I think bringing up Hitler is a bit of an overreaction.

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#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/34 "2023-09-29T22:39:30Z")

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I don’t think Schilling is a borderline candidate. Maybe not a first ballot guy, but pretty much a no-doubter if he wasn’t such a reprehensible human being.

> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> As a Mets fan I know Tim Wakefield helped the Red Sox beat the fucking Yankees in 2004…

Wakefield didn’t really help Boston much in the 2004 ALCS (8.59 ERA, 7 earned runs in 7.1 innings.) He’s much better known for giving up the Aaron Boone homerun in the 2003 ALCS. Here’s a clip if you’d like to relive that magical moment. 😁

[Game 7 2003 ALCS](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrMfEEUObPE)

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> He couldn’t hit so the _AL_ was the place for him,

You misspelled _ninth spot in the batting order_.

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### Author: ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/36 "2023-09-29T22:46:18Z")

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For the record, and speaking as a baseball fan, when Schilling was playing I never thought of him as good enough for the Hall of Fame. When his career ended, I was surprised to see that his overall body of work was more impressive than I’d thought. I still probably wouldn’t vote for him (based exclusively on his pitching record), but you can make a strong case that he belongs.

But, good lord, what a terrible person. I believe it was Jay Jaffe, who knows more about the Hall of Fame than practically anybody, who wrote [paraphrased], “Based on his pitching credentials, maybe he belongs and maybe he doesn’t, but I’m not going to go to bat for him any more. Let him fight his own battles.”

The thing that I can’t get over is that the guy, in a previous existence perhaps, won several awards for his service, including the Roberto Clemente Award in (I think) 2001. This is an award given for work in the community and making the world a better place. How the mighty have fallen.

I suppose it’s as the Good Book says: “By their fruits shall ye know them…”  
And we sure do.

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#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/37 "2023-09-29T23:09:40Z")

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I love Wakefield so much (and also one of the few Sox players with the same name as MA towns like Lynn, Everett, etc). I loved when he was having a good night pitching and the absolute puzzlement on batters’ faces when they had to do the walk of shame back to the dugout on strike three or a catchable foul. The live updates when his catcher got traded back to Boston… Just a great player and seems like a great dude.

And Schilling is the fucking opposite. All he had to do was keep his fucking mouth shut (not about this but about everything else) these last few years and he would have been a hometown hero forever. He could have been our icon but he couldn’t just leave it alone.

Also, next year will be the 20th anniversary of the epic 2005 ALCS/WS victories. It’s gonna be insufferable in these parts in about 53 weeks.

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### Author: ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)
#### Post date: [September 29, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/38 "2023-09-29T23:10:30Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> He’s much better known for giving up the Aaron Boone homerun

Aww crap! Yes I remember that one. When the knuckle-ball doesn’t bobble around like Bugs Bunny threw it - it’s batting practice,

I was at Game 5 of the 2000 World Series and I was sure I had put a hex on the Yankees ever winning another world series in my lifetime. At least not till the Mets beat them!

Curt Shilling and his fucking bloody sock might have been a hero in my book had he been a Philly and they beat the Yankees in 2009.

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> You misspelled _ninth spot in the batting order_.

In the NL (I have heard things have changed since I moved to the UK) pitchers used to have some skills - at least bunting - so they weren’t automatic outs.

The coolest thing I’ve heard told - probably Tim McCarver who used to do color commentary for the Mets - but whomever - is that a really good outing by a knuckleballer would mess with the minds of hitters the _next_ day.

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#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/39 "2023-09-30T00:32:48Z")

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Losing the 2000 WS to the Mets would have been much, much worse than what happened in 2004. On the other hand, I was rooting hard for the Mets in 2015 series. Effing Terry Collins.

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#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/40 "2023-09-30T00:34:48Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Fuck you, Curt. Fuck you.

of course - in a Christian way

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