# Curt Schilling is still an asshole

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 28, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836 "2023-09-28T22:20:33Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/41 "2023-09-30T00:55:49Z")

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The missionary position?

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### Author: ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/42 "2023-09-30T01:06:23Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> That link is completely unreadable with all the blinking shit on the banner and side bar. Just sayin’

Looks perfectly fine to me. Maybe you need a content blocker.

Otherwise, please address all complaints to

Mediaite  
1261 Broadway  
Suite 606  
New York, NY  
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### Author: ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/43 "2023-09-30T01:41:07Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Did Hitler play baseball? Only after him, too.

Pete Rose is still not in the Hall of Fame for fucks’ sake. I’d say after Rose.

> [@zbuzz](#):
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> Looks perfectly fine to me. Maybe you need a content blocker.

I’ll admit, I don’t see any of that stuff either on that page. Looks like a normal web site. Of course, I have an ad blocker, because it’s ridiculous not to have one.

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/44 "2023-09-30T03:16:16Z")

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I have an adblocker, too, and I keep it updated and yet it was all flashing sidebar for me. Well, whatever.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/45 "2023-09-30T03:35:33Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> In the NL (I have heard things have changed since I moved to the UK) pitchers used to have some skills - at least bunting - so they weren’t automatic outs.

Well, some did, anyway. I think that that generally faded as time went on, when the DH became more common in lower levels of baseball, meaning that pitchers got even less experience at hitting before reaching the majors. And, even those who were reasonably good at bunting were still largely “automatic outs,” though they were able to move runners along using sacrifices.

And, yes, the NL instituted the DH in 2022, so MLB pitchers don’t hit at all, unless the team actively chooses to let their pitcher hit (and that’s pretty much just Shohei Ohtani).

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#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/46 "2023-09-30T05:40:35Z")

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Wow. About the OP, I hadn’t heard.

I’m a Christian, and I’m on my church’s prayer chain. Prayers shared with the prayer chain are kept private to only those of us on it, and what’s more, we only share concerns and pray for them if and only if the person with the concern wants it shared. If they don’t, we don’t.

Yes we believe in the power of prayer, but Jeez Louise, we respect peoples’ privacy.

That that was pretty fucked up Curt Schilling. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

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### Author: ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/47 "2023-09-30T06:09:58Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > [@Coriolanus](#):
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> > In the NL (I have heard things have changed since I moved to the UK) pitchers used to have some skills - at least bunting - so they weren’t automatic outs.
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> Well, some did, anyway. I think that that generally faded as time went on, when the DH became more common in lower levels of baseball, meaning that pitchers got even less experience at hitting before reaching the majors. And, even those who were reasonably good at bunting were still largely “automatic outs,” though they were able to move runners along using sacrifices.
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> And, yes, the NL instituted the DH in 2022, so MLB pitchers don’t hit at all, unless the team actively chooses to let their pitcher hit (and that’s pretty much just Shohei Ohtani).

I just have to use this moment to share [Bartolo Colon hitting his first - and only - career home run](https://youtu.be/OVFsq9FQBlc?si=4ZMThJm1ps2mJ8DL).

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#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/48 "2023-09-30T10:48:21Z")

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Not all ad blockers are trustworthy. Some are even owned by ad companies. If yours isn’t blocking all those pop-ups on [mediaite.com](http://mediaite.com), consider switching to uBlock Origin.

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### Author: ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/49 "2023-09-30T11:54:47Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The missionary position?

They’re not married to each other, so probably anal?

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### Author: ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/50 "2023-09-30T12:23:50Z")

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It’s funny this would come up now, because just about a week ago (prior to this), a MAGA-relative of mine was going on about how [paraphrasing]:

I hate the media for how they’ve destroyed Curt Schilling. They said he was a Nazi who collected Third Reich paraphernalia, but actually he’s a WW2 buff who has lots of stuff and the Nazi stuff is just part of his larger collection

I did what I usually do: “Mmm-hmm. Hey, are you going to mom’s thing next week?”

But this now piques my interest. Anyone know what he was on about?

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### Author: ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/51 "2023-09-30T12:55:48Z")

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There are a lot of people who collect WWII stuff as well as a sub-set that really do collect Nazi stuff. Here’s a gift article from the NYT about it:

> **[Opinion | What Kind of Person Has a Closet Full of Nazi Memorabilia?](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/29/opinion/nazi-memorabilia-market-liveauctioneers.html?unlocked_article_code=ar6FSysRh6e06nWjX1m2PtxEBmItppHUMRYxRTd3sZ4CV6dXtwwZRdICJHUTNcKRd18uPZWoZTtSgITh2nMaOCP_jC-VDjqXtKnKgKIRAJIbPgc41w0geSkUkUKAQ6KudSiZ0wCaVjw0COe-mcA_EGFSyxJ4FzjNt2PouMQRDDRkOJCGtpUmgiiTtwQTqW-sCZqmshmlTuPaIGeS6L7v1ZV_DiVdqMrLoetdCPMBMNnqkDWC3DzvBVVg5mdVQHAwfBslon4V3e4NK_ecAwsgYLTZ9fSCfGfZlLWQZsBHZBM4FH00tk-UgyFSU5ECfPTJEuCwo_xo7p2LZ5Rc0yig92chGvN8TChpUIcM9Ou-EM29&smid=url-share)**
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> An SS dagger. Auschwitz cups. Hitler’s globe. If an object played a material role in the Third Reich, then it’s probably for sale. Why do we allow it?

I don’t know whether Schilling is a WWII collector or a Nazi collector. Personally, I find the Nazi stuff incredibly creepy.

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### Author: ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/52 "2023-09-30T17:09:08Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> I hate the media for how they’ve destroyed Curt Schilling. They said he was a Nazi who collected Third Reich paraphernalia, but actually he’s a WW2 buff who has lots of stuff and the Nazi stuff is just part of his larger collection

Are you sure they weren’t conflating him with Clarence Thomas’ benefactor, Harlan Crow?

> **[Clarence Thomas' Billionaire Buddy Has a Vast Collection of Hitler Paintings,...](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/clarence-thomas-harlan-crow-hitler-paintings-nazi-memorabilia-1234711860/amp/)**
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> Clarence Thomas' billionaire buddy Harlan Crow has a collection of Adolf Hitler's paintings and Nazi memorabilia, according to a resurfaced report.

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### Author: ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/53 "2023-09-30T17:13:01Z")

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Presumably there is more than one person who collects Nazi shit. I can’t see who they’d be conflating a former athlete with Thomas’s buddy.

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### Author: ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/54 "2023-09-30T17:14:03Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Pete Rose is still not in the Hall of Fame for fucks’ sake. I’d say after Rose.

Pete’s pretty reprehensible as well (and that’s not limited to his infamous gambling decisions)…

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### Author: ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/55 "2023-09-30T17:17:09Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I can’t see who they’d be conflating a former athlete with Thomas’s buddy.

Perhaps, because, of all the reprehensible shit that has been ascribed to Curt Schilling, collecting Nazi memorabilia isn’t one of them.

Harlan Crow, however, has recently been in the news, and is known to collect Nazi memorabilia, and has explained it as being part of a larger interest in historical collections.

ETA: ok, a little research and I stand corrected.

Curt Schilling is an asshole with a Nazi collection. I shouldn’t have expected anything else.

> **[Here’s Curt Schilling’s Nazi memorabilia](https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2015/08/25/heres-curt-schillings-nazi-memorabilia/?amp=1)**
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> Curt Schilling is an avid collector of World War II memorabilia -- and his collection includes numerous Nazi uniforms with swastikas.

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#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/56 "2023-09-30T17:51:51Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> They’re not married to each other, so probably anal?

Anal is likely the closest you’ll ever get to a horrible stinking POS like Curt Schilling.

( But thank goodness for soap and hot water in any event )

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### Author: ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/57 "2023-09-30T22:23:24Z")

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So, like Ty Cobb?

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/58 "2023-09-30T22:47:23Z")

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I’m not saying that Ty Cobb was a saint, but the general perception that he was a terrible human being (i.e., a racist, a cheat, and possibly a murderer) appears to be the result of stories which were fabricated by authors and biographers, particularly Al Stump, after Cobb’s death in 1961; those stories led to his portrayal as an asshole in Ken Burns’ _Baseball_ documentary, and the 1994 film starring Tommy Lee Jones, and cemented that perception in the minds of many.

> **[Who Was Ty Cobb? The History We Know That’s Wrong](https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/who-was-ty-cobb-the-history-we-know-thats-wrong/)**
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> Ty Cobb was one of the greatest baseball players of all time and king of the so-called Deadball Era. But for all that, most Americans think of him first as an awful person.

> **[How Ty Cobb the truth got lost inside Ty Cobb the myth](https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/arts/2015/06/09/ty-cobb-myth-legend-popular-culture/28765125/)**
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> Oft-reviled Detroit Tigers legend was whipsawed by popular culture, but true story takes hold

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### Author: ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [September 30, 2023, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/59 "2023-09-30T22:49:22Z")

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I will check those out, I knew him from Ken Burns.

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#### Post date: [October 1, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/curt-schilling-is-still-an-asshole/990836/60 "2023-10-01T18:46:21Z")

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Well, RIP Tim Wakefield (I’m sure someone will start a proper thread, just wanted to mark it here as well). One of my favorite Sox players, and one of the nicest.

> <https://twitter.com/redsox/status/1708550648914903185?s=61&t=7zPHcBzjb1UW-wh6DrDc3g>

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