# CW Announces Batwoman Series in Development **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 19, 2018, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193 "2018-07-19T12:23:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/21 "2018-08-08T17:16:31Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > Ruby Rose is 130 pounds. There is no way someone that small is going to be an effective street fighter. Wonder Woman, Supergirl, and Buffy all have powers that make them superhumanly strong. The appeal of Batman/Woman is that they are regular people who are highly skilled. She is going to need to seriously bulk up for the role. They could play her up as a low-wattage version of Tony Stark: bulletproof costume with taser gloves; nightvision lenses and smoke pellets, plus an air-supply mask for when she’s tossing knockout gas grenades around; and maybe flashbangs, too, for really making an entrance; and that’s all assuming she doesn’t just, y’know, carry a _gun,_ since after all she’s not Bruce Wayne and doesn’t have his signature hangup. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/22 "2018-08-08T17:51:48Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > Ruby Rose is 130 pounds. There is no way someone that small is going to be an effective street fighter. Wonder Woman, Supergirl, and Buffy all have powers that make them superhumanly strong. The appeal of Batman/Woman is that they are regular people who are highly skilled. She is going to need to seriously bulk up for the role. Michael Keaton is about 3 foot 2. They can make it work. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/23 "2018-08-08T18:23:28Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > Ruby Rose is 130 pounds. There is no way someone that small is going to be an effective street fighter. Wonder Woman, Supergirl, and Buffy all have powers that make them superhumanly strong. The appeal of Batman/Woman is that they are regular people who are highly skilled. She is going to need to seriously bulk up for the role. There is no way anyone could do the grand majority of the things Batman does, Ruby Rose has as much chance of doing any of those things as Ronda Rousey. ---
**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/24 "2018-08-08T20:19:22Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > There is no way anyone could do the grand majority of the things Batman does, Ruby Rose has as much chance of doing any of those things as Ronda Rousey. Rousey fought people who were the same size as her, the reason they have weight classes in UFC is she would be crushed by someone significantly bigger than her. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/25 "2018-08-08T21:17:13Z")
> [@puddleglum](#): > > Rousey fought people who were the same size as her, the reason they have weight classes in UFC is she would be crushed by someone significantly bigger than her. That doesn’t mean she can do most of the things Batman does. Neither could Ben Affleck, Christian Bale, George Clooney, Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton or Adam West. Having Ruby Rose play Bat Woman is not any more unrealistic than anyone else because nothing they do is realistic. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/26 "2018-08-08T23:44:32Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > That doesn’t mean she can do most of the things Batman does. Neither could Ben Affleck, Christian Bale, George Clooney, Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton or Adam West. Well, maybe Adam West. ---
**Author:** ![Sloe\_Moe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sloe\_Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sloe_Moe)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/27 "2018-08-08T23:46:39Z")
A Batperson then. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/28 "2018-08-09T10:51:35Z")
> [@Lightray](#): > > Although the Batwoman series is still in development, it is being reported everywhere that Ruby Rose would be the lead. So, not re-cast; it’s just still _in development_. To clarify: Rose will play Batwoman in a series of cross-over eps on the CW. It’s an annual thing they do, with a story running across the other DC series. What I’m saying is that while Rose will easily do the 3 episode cross-over (apparently Legends won’t be part of this one), I’m dubious about her doing an entire series, so they would need a new Batwoman for that. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/29 "2018-08-09T11:00:44Z")
And the point other people are making is that she’s already on board for the series. Or,at least, that’s what all the reporting seems to be saying, as it all mentions the new show. I suspect it was a requirement to get the the Supergirl part that she be on contract for the new series if it comes out. I mean, the episodes are likely to function as a backdoor pilot, and are thus connected. If her performance on Supergirl gets the show made, why wouldn’t they want to lock her down for the show proper? ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/30 "2018-08-09T11:31:03Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And the point other people are making is that she’s already on board for the series. Or,at least, that’s what all the reporting seems to be saying, as it all mentions the new show. I suspect it was a requirement to get the the Supergirl part that she be on contract for the new series if it comes out. I really, really doubt that. Rose was cast for a 3 episode run and yeah, if the character is popular they might try to shoehorn yet another DC series into the schedule, but saying Rose committed to something so up in the air as a “possible series is in development.” That’s the entertainment industry’s version of “vaporware.” ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/31 "2018-08-09T11:48:17Z")
Has the CW ever _not_ created a series in the Arrowverse when they said they would? Barry Allen was introduced on _Arrow_, and the next year they gave us _The Flash_. Hawkgirl and Vandal Savage were introduced during the first _Arrow_/_The Flash_ crossover and the next year they gave us _Legends of Tomorrow_. _The Flash_ crossovered with _Supergirl_ and lo and behold they’re in the same multiverse. If the CW says they want to make a _Batwoman_ series that’s part of the Arrowverse, I think they’re probably going to make a _Batwoman_ series. Ruby Rose herself seems quite committed to playing the role: [Ruby Rose Tears Up About ‘Batwoman’ Casting – The Hollywood Reporter](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/ruby-rose-tears-up-discussing-game-changer-batwoman-casting-1133434) ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/32 "2018-08-09T13:08:24Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > I really, really doubt that. Rose was cast for a 3 episode run and yeah, if the character is popular they might try to shoehorn yet another DC series into the schedule, but saying Rose committed to something so up in the air as a “possible series is in development.” That’s the entertainment industry’s version of “vaporware.” You keep insisting on this when every article talking about it claims that Ruby Rose has signed on _for the series_. The vaporware here _is the series_, not Ruby Rose’s participation in it. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/33 "2018-08-09T14:15:19Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > _The Flash_ crossovered with _Supergirl_ and lo and behold they’re in the same multiverse. Doesn’t literally everything have to be in the same multiverse? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/34 "2018-08-22T00:05:17Z")
The crossover dates, where Batwoman will be introduced, have been revealed: [http://www.ksitetv.com/batwoman/2018-arrowverse-crossover-dates-revealed-when-will-we-meet-batwoman/182691/](http://www.ksitetv.com/batwoman/2018-arrowverse-crossover-dates-revealed-when-will-we-meet-batwoman/182691/) The shows will air Dec 9-11. For the crossover only, _The Flash_ moves to Sunday and _Supergirl_ moves to Tuesday; _Arrow_ remains on its (new) regular night of Monday. So the crossover will go _The Flash_ → _Arrow_ → _Supergirl_. Given that the finale will be on _Supergirl_, this speaks to it taking place on Earth-38 and Batwoman will probably live there as well. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/35 "2018-08-23T01:04:12Z")
Superman is going to be in the crossover, and he’s bringing a friend: > **[Arrowverse crossover to feature Tyler Hoechlin's Superman, introduce Lois Lane](https://ew.com/tv/2018/08/22/arrowverse-crossover-superman-lois-lane/)** > > Batwoman, the Flash, and Green Arrow will (finally) come face to face with Superman and Lois Lane in the three-night Arrowverse crossover > [@](#): > > EW has learned that Tyler Hoechlin is set to reprise his role as the Man of Steel in this year’s three-night crossover, which will mark Ruby Rose’s debut as Gotham crusader Batwoman, a.k.a. Kate Kane. He will appear in all three episodes, meaning fans will finally get to see him share the screen with Grant Gustin’s Flash and Stephen Amell’s Green Arrow; however, that isn’t the only major development. The CW will also introduce intrepid Daily Planet reporter Lois Lane in the epic event, too. Casting for the role will begin soon. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2018, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/36 "2018-09-15T03:10:00Z")
Elizabeth Tulloch has been cast as Lois Lane. > **[Elizabeth Tulloch Cast As Lois Lane](https://supergirl.tv/elizabeth-tulloch-cast-as-lois-lane)** > > The internet's number 1 source for news on The CW's show, Supergirl! News, Rumors, Spoilers, Images and Video! She even kinda looks like Margot Kidder. It’ll be fascinating to see her interact with white-bread Jimmy Olsen. Are they going to bring back Jenna Dewan as Lucy Lane? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/37 "2019-01-04T01:40:06Z")
I trust we’ve all seen the [Elseworlds crossover](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=864034) by now. I thought Ruby Rose did a good job as Batwoman; her Kate Kane could use some work. To no one’s surprise (except possibly **epbrown01** ) the CW has put in an [order for a pilot](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/ruby-rose-led-batwoman-pilot-a-go-at-cw-1172794) with Ruby Rose in the lead role. A full series order will no doubt follw. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/38 "2019-01-04T18:28:21Z")
> [@planetcory](#): > > Michael Keaton is about 3 foot 2. They can make it work. LOL - when Tim Burton’s “Batman” came out, I had a boss at the time who was a huge Batman fan and was outraged at the casting of Keaton. “He can’t play the Batman! He’s just a little guy!” ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/39 "2019-01-04T19:42:38Z")
Question: does Batgirl/Batwoman have all the money and cool toys like Bruce/Batman has? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193/40 "2019-01-04T20:25:22Z")
Batgirl and Batwoman are different characters. Batwoman is Bruce’s cousin, Kate Kane. Batgirl is (currently) Commissioner Gordon’s daughter, Barbara. Both, in the comics, do have access to lots of gear, for multiple reasons. Among them, having worked with Bruce. (Also, in Babs’ case, being a tech genius in her own right, and in Kate’s, due to her father’s paramilitary connections.) In this universe, Kate is in control of Bruce’s…for want of a better word, estate (though he’s probably not actually dead), so she has access to his actual gear. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cw-announces-batwoman-series-in-development/818193.md?page=3)