# Cyberpunk 2077 release discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** video-games-e-games\ **Created:** [December 10, 2020, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721 "2020-12-10T02:35:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/281 "2020-12-24T18:19:14Z")
Thanks! I reported my post for a mod fix. > [@Babale](#): > > You feel what they feel, think what they think, etc - so it’s even more horrifying. Right, which is why the studio folks need to make sure Evelyn really thinks she’s about to escape, or really thinks she’s committing suicide. It’s got to be real. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/282 "2020-12-24T18:45:01Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > A PG-13 city doesn’t really sell it. It just doesn’t. It’s like a PG-13 Disney haunted house. It looks like a haunted house. It has haunted house things. But you are never really sold on it being a haunted house. I just did a mission in a gay strip bar called “Dicky Twisters”, which had large flapping neon penises over its front door. Is that just like the one at Anaheim, or at Orlando? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/283 "2020-12-24T18:47:10Z")
Just like Disneyland. There are flashing neon (dicks/ghosts) over the (strip club/haunted house) but no actual (dicks/ghosts) inside. But ghosts don’t exist and I’m fine with implied dicks in my video games rather than actual ones. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/284 "2020-12-24T18:57:29Z")
True. And I agree - I’m all for verisimilitude, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/285 "2020-12-24T19:01:55Z")
Honestly I think the ingame ads are just edgy enough (they’re definitely more explicit than anything you see IRL in the US at least, and they’re absolutely everywhere - neither Vegas nor LA have this many strip club billboards!). I know they even toned it down a bit in places (there was a 3 mouths 1 desire billboard in prerelease footage that was much grosser) and I don’t think that was a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/286 "2020-12-24T22:29:49Z")
I’m not playing this game. You are seeking to box me into some explicit description that is not possible and will endlessly find fault. In Jacobellis v. Ohio supreme court justice Potter Stewart said, “I know it when I see it” in trying to define what is pornographic. I can do no better here. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/287 "2020-12-24T22:51:35Z")
Correct me if I’m wrong, but “I know it when I see it” was about the impossibility of creating a blanket rule. Nobody is asking you to create a blanket definition of what constitutes an ‘edgy’ game. We’re in a specific thread about a specific game. You said that it’s not edgy enough for you. Multiple posters have given examples of what they consider to be edgy, and you’re being asked what **you** would consider to meet that bar. Nobody’s trying to box you into anything - just to quantify your criticisms. Maybe from a different angle, you could give some examples of a video game you did consider to be sufficiently edgy? Final thought: if being asked to quantify what explicit acts you’d like to see in a video game makes you feel attacked or cornered, I apologize. But I’d suggest that your reluctance highlights why a developer wouldn’t want to include those same acts in a game designed for wide appeal. I’d submit that your desire for an “NC-17” game was unrealistic - you were never going to get it from a mass-media product. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/288 "2020-12-24T22:52:09Z")
Yeah, now I just sneak into a complex, hack a camera and kill everyone inside with suicide. Then I stroll in, gather the loot, hack any money nodes and hen amble over to whatever the objective is. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/289 "2020-12-24T22:53:18Z")
I just did a mission that was supposed to be done in stealth. My character is not set up that way, but I tried! When the gunplay inevitably broke out, I got harassed over comms for the rest of the mission about my incompetence. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/290 "2020-12-24T22:57:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Right, which is why > > It’s got to be real. The sick twist in my game was that, not long after you rescue her, Evelyn does commit suicide. Also, so did my neighbor (him at least there is a way to save, but it seems a little far fetched) ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/291 "2020-12-24T23:07:43Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Final thought: if being asked to quantify what explicit acts you’d like to see in a video game makes you feel attacked or cornered, I apologize. But I’d suggest that your reluctance highlights why a developer wouldn’t want to include those same acts in a game designed for wide appeal. I’ve been down paths like these before. No matter what I say you will be able to find exception with. So no, I’m not going to say the game needs 25% more penises and more explicit fucking and torture porn. I can point to things I do not like about many movies. It does not mean I have an exact prescription for how to fix it in my head. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/292 "2020-12-24T23:15:18Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I’m not going to say the game needs 25% more penises and more explicit fucking and torture porn. So… 50% more penises? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/293 "2020-12-24T23:54:29Z")
Now that my character is pretty much a net running god, I only wear my sunglasses and a hat. I ride up to missions naked on my motorcycle armed only with a pistol and dominate, this is on hard difficulty. What sucks is net running is fun in the early part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/294 "2020-12-26T16:15:34Z")
> [@wjChia](#): > > The vehicles have the same quirk you will find in the older GTA games: As you cannot manually flip an overturned vehicle, once overturned it will gradually take damage and blow up. > > This is especially silly in Cyberpunk since after your personal vehicles blow up in this manner, you can just summon it to you again and you get a spanking new vehicle parked next to its exploded wreck. I noticed that in that case you get a message stating that a replacement vehicle has been provided pursuant to the terms of your insurance policy and you are charged a certain deductible 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/295 "2020-12-26T16:19:17Z")
I just did the mission in Detective Rivers’s storyline where you have to hunt down a serial killer by doing a BD of his dreams. Creeeepy. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/296 "2020-12-27T15:51:04Z")
I have not tried this yet but it may be of help to some: > **[Cyberpunk 2077 One-Click Tool Promises Up To 30 FPS Uplift](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-ez-optimizer-fps-performance-increase)** > > Free FPS for all ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/297 "2020-12-27T16:30:57Z")
Spoilers for the main plot quest ‘Transmission’: Dang. So we’re really doing this in a game, huh? Maybe it’s rated M for Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Nudity, and Use of Drugs and Alcohol, but the ESRB should add Existential Crisis to that list 😮 For real though - this game is posing some fairly deep questions for your average RPG and I love it! There is a debate in one of the other threads here about the very questions posed in this quest. I’m excited to see where this game takes them - it’s phrasing this concept as a ‘soul’, which could end up being a little woo-y, for my taste; but we’ll see where it goes from here. I’m sure the game will explore this a lot more deeply I think I’m still pretty early on but I’ve been doing a lot of sidequests, haha. I’m loving the progression so far - I keep getting weapons that totally outclass what I was using before, and getting very excited about them, to the point where I don’t really notice that I need new weapons until I’ve got them - and then I wonder how I ever got by without them. I did try some fistfights and got absolutely wrekt, so I traded my mantis blades in for gorilla fists. Long-term I think I’d like to try and keep Monowire. I can’t remember if I punched Fingers or not. Apparently if you do, he won’t sell you his hyperadvanced legs! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/298 "2020-12-27T17:14:26Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I can’t remember if I punched Fingers or not. Apparently if you do, he won’t sell you his hyperadvanced legs! I punched him and stole his cane. Worth it. Only reason I didn’t put one in his skull is because the prostitutes outside seemed to rely on him even if it’s a shitty arrangement. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/299 "2020-12-27T17:21:04Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > There is a debate in one of the other threads here about the very questions posed in this quest. I’m excited to see where this game takes them - it’s phrasing this concept as a ‘soul’, which could end up being a little woo-y, for my taste; but we’ll see where it goes from here. I’m sure the game will explore this a lot more deeply Sometimes it’s nicely done, like when your pal the talking vending machine gets wiped, and when the inspiration for the revolutionaries turns out to be a hacked fortune-teller bot , but other times (perhaps deliberately) it is a bit in your face when Johnny has lines about aren’t you basically in the same boat, hint hint like when you have to deal with Delamain’s personality fragments, or the politician whose brain is being reprogrammed, or the sex club where sex workers’ bodies are controlled by an AI, etc. Of course, Johnny is not subtle; he actually asked me, would you take a bullet for me?.. would you? And he has his whole monologue about how corporations are controlling people’s very souls. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721/300 "2020-12-27T17:29:50Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > I punched him and stole his cane. Worth it. Only reason I didn’t put one in his skull is because the prostitutes outside seemed to rely on him even if it’s a shitty arrangement. OH! Shit, THAT’S Fingers! I confused him with the other asshole ripperdoc you find after killing a bunch of scavengers in a basement. He is selling the parts they rip out of people, and he either gives you a discount if you read his emails and know he ran the operation, or runs away. I can’t remember if I blackmailed him or shot him as he fled. I’m pretty sure I didn’t hit Fingers but I did steal his cane. I’ll try to save up the cash and see if I can get some hoverlegs [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cyberpunk-2077-release-discussion/927721.md?page=16)