# Cybersecurity coordinator out of NSC **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 15, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241 "2018-05-15T20:58:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/1 "2018-05-15T20:58:28Z")
[John Bolton has followed through on his earlier intention to remove the cyber-security coordinator from the NSC.](http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/387809-trump-administration-eliminates-top-cyber-role-report) > [@](#): > > The White House has decided to get rid of its top cyber policy adviser role, eliminating the policy position that aimed to help streamline the government’s overall approach to cybersecurity policy across federal agencies, Politico reported Tuesday. This seems incredibly foolhardy, given recent developments regarding Russian hacking of our infrastructure. We also have the 2018 mid-terms coming up. I don’t understand why we wouldn’t want to try to prevent future tampering, even if we can’t agree on what happened in the past. In short, I find this a troubling move that puts our country at risk. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/2 "2018-05-15T21:17:52Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > This seems incredibly foolhardy, given recent developments regarding Russian hacking of our infrastructure. Not if you were elected due to this cyber-tampering. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/3 "2018-05-15T21:24:18Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > [John Bolton has followed through on his earlier intention to remove the cyber-security coordinator from the NSC.](http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/387809-trump-administration-eliminates-top-cyber-role-report) > > **This seems incredibly foolhardy, given recent developments regarding Russian hacking of our infrastructure.** We also have the 2018 mid-terms coming up. I don’t understand why we wouldn’t want to try to prevent future tampering, even if we can’t agree on what happened in the past. > > In short, I find this a troubling move that puts our country at risk. The Russians were complaining there were still places they couldn’t hack into. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/4 "2018-05-15T21:29:53Z")
I wonder if Fox news even reports on this. I would guess that the majority of Trump’s supporters never hear about it. ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/5 "2018-05-15T21:34:21Z")
I’m pretty sure that this is not the first or last time that the words John Bolton and foolhardy are used together. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/6 "2018-05-15T23:22:18Z")
You are too kind. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/7 "2018-05-18T16:53:11Z")
I wouldn’t worry too much about this. As an exec with a Federal cyber contractor, I’m very familiar with what drives our cyber infrastructure. By far the biggest player is still kicking along, and that’s DHS and their CDM program. Einstein protects the TICs and TICAPs, with the assistance of the evil empire/Booz. They NCCIC looks for systemic threats against critical infrastructure, and policy comes from what used to be called NPPD, along with help from NIST. Not to worry. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/8 "2018-05-18T17:23:32Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Not to worry. I’ll remember this the next time I get an alert on my credit from the service I get for free due to all the government data breaches that there have been. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/9 "2018-05-18T17:30:42Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > I wouldn’t worry too much about this. As an exec with a Federal cyber contractor, I’m very familiar with what drives our cyber infrastructure. > > By far the biggest player is still kicking along, and that’s DHS and their CDM program. Einstein protects the TICs and TICAPs, with the assistance of the evil empire/Booz. They NCCIC looks for systemic threats against critical infrastructure, and policy comes from what used to be called NPPD, along with help from NIST. > > Not to worry. The issue is not whether or not there are still cyber security programs and people in place. The issue is that there is no longer a central coordinating function across all agencies who sits on the National Security Council. Given that cyber security is one of the main fronts of international aggression in modern times, we should have someone in that role. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybersecurity-coordinator-out-of-nsc/814241/10 "2018-05-18T17:58:37Z")
Sunny, that’s what I’m trying to say - DHS leads the charge in cyber coordination across the Feds. They also do a lot (although not as comprehensive) lower down the ladder, which is actually more relevant wrt elections. They protect sectors as varied as water treatment plants to private sector health organizations (which happens to be where my company works in).