# Cybertrucks falling apart

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 25, 2025, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780 "2025-02-25T12:45:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/141 "2025-03-19T23:07:27Z")

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Yeah, that is _not_ obvious. It looks like a piece of trim cover panel.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/142 "2025-03-19T23:15:43Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> It looks like a piece of trim cover panel.

Agreed. I’m still not even sure the tiny little thing I think is the release lever is actually the release lever.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/143 "2025-03-19T23:28:16Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> A lot of sports cars have frameless windows that lower a bit when the door opens and then raise up when it’s shut. Not doing this can put extra pressure on the seals, which had to get beefier due to increasing consumer expectations for NVH reduction.
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> A lot of cars like this are still mechanical, tough, you’re just expected not to whip the door open.

That’s my car too.

As you pull the mechanical door handle (inside or outside), the computer runs the window down an inch or so, so by the time your pitifully slow human body can get the door moving, the computer has long since gotten the window clear of the weather seals. If for some reason that doesn’t happen, the effort to open the door is slightly greater. It’s a concession to seal durability, not to ease of access.

I’m sure there is somebody somewhere who is exactly infirm enough they can get the door open with great difficulty with the window down, and would fail with the window up. That person is not the target market for that kind of car, and IMO is not really within the design envelope for any kind of car. “Too weak to move” and “still drives” ought to be an empty set.

  

What is the decode for “NVH”?

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/144 "2025-03-19T23:58:53Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Agreed. I’m still not even sure the tiny little thing I think is the release lever is actually the release lever.

Same here, and if I hadn’t been told it was there I might have not thought it was a release lever at all.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/145 "2025-03-20T00:06:09Z")

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> [@echoreply](#):
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> In the front they are not hidden or secret, and no more mysterious than that first time you exit an unfamiliar rental car.

Why only restrict to the front? The primary criticism has always been on the Model Y’s back seats. The door release is in an extremely unintuitive place and 99.9% of people would not be able to figure it out in the event of an emergency:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FVwuOdMBpfo/maxresdefault.jpg "Model Y Rear Door Emergency Release") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVwuOdMBpfo)

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/146 "2025-03-20T01:22:52Z")

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Noise, vibration, and harshness

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/147 "2025-03-20T02:10:50Z")

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> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> They are some of the ugliest automobiles made. Or any Tesla, for that matter.

The first time I saw one, I thought, “Man, these are The Nursing Shoes of Cars”

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/148 "2025-03-20T09:06:16Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@steronz](#):
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> > It looks like a piece of trim cover panel.
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> Agreed. I’m still not even sure the tiny little thing I think is the release lever is actually the release lever.

And even if it is, and the owner has studied the manual and knows where it is, I foresee other problems. What if it’s a rental car? The way Elmo designs his cars, one would appear to need a one-week training course in order to qualify to drive them. Or in the immortal words of Donald J Trump – a man who can turn a phrase with a brilliance unseen since William Shakespeare – who said, upon first getting into a “Tesler”: “Hey, it’s all computer!”.

But the other problem I’m imagining is that the Tesla owner, having educated himself on the location of the mechanical door release, knows how to react when his Tesla is on fire, which happens from time to time, and fiercely pulls on that little plastic piece.

I think we’ve all seen those cartoonish comedies where a car is careening down a steep slope and the driver pulls hard on the emergency brake, and it comes off in their hand. Yeah, like that. I have no specific reason to believe that would happen in any particular model of Tesla, except for the history of Elmo’s design ingenuity! 😉

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/149 "2025-03-20T10:21:12Z")

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Q: Is this the right forum for this?

> **[Top Tesla investor issues brutal ultimatum to Elon Musk as stocks plunge](https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-ultimatum-tesla-stock-34891042)**
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> Ross Gerber, who owns an estimated $105 million in shares of Tesla stock, called on Elon Musk to step down as head of the company, saying that he "destroyed" the company's reputation

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/150 "2025-03-20T11:48:28Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> As you pull the mechanical door handle (inside or outside), the computer runs the window down an inch or so {…}

That sounds _powerfully_ Teutonic to me 😉

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/151 "2025-03-20T13:09:27Z")

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Ze Cherman engineerz know vah bettah zan you do vat you vant.

You vill get it; und you _vill_ like it!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/152 "2025-03-20T13:21:51Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> The door release is in an extremely unintuitive place and 99.9% of people would not be able to figure it out in the event of an emergency:

99.9% of the people who know that is where the emergency release is won’t be able to access it in an emergency (I particularly like needing fingernails to pry open the cover). 100% not privy to that level of the Tesla arcana will fail to locate it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/153 "2025-03-20T14:00:46Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> (I particularly like needing fingernails to pry open the cover)

Is that legit? You can’t just pull on it like a regular lever?

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/154 "2025-03-20T14:13:03Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> > [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#):
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> > They are some of the ugliest automobiles made. Or any Tesla, for that matter.
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> The first time I saw one, I thought, “Man, these are The Nursing Shoes of Cars.”

Lol - maybe even the rented bowling shoes of cars.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/155 "2025-03-20T14:14:30Z")

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This guy is like #zillion on the list of shareholders.

[Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Stock Major Holders - Yahoo Finance](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/holders/)

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/156 "2025-03-20T14:33:48Z")

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They remind me of the homemade car bodies hobbyists would put on VW frames back in the day. A stack of 1" rigid foam insulation and a couple rolls of duct tape and you got yourself a car!

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/157 "2025-03-20T16:00:32Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> his guy is like #zillion on the list of shareholders.
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> [Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Stock Major Holders - Yahoo Finance](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/holders/)

Yeah. Still, to live a life where you had more than $100million to piss away on a Rump stock! Must be nice, yes?

PS- The stock is down further today I see.

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♫ Anti-Gay World…!  
♫ Where stock prices go…  
♫ So low… low… low… low… LOW…!

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/a7ndKY-y6jM/hqdefault.jpg "Playworld 1980's Commercial! "So Low"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ndKY-y6jM)

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/158 "2025-03-20T16:07:57Z")

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PPS-

[https://www.axios.com/2025/03/20/tesla-musk-lutnick](https://www.axios.com/2025/03/20/tesla-musk-lutnick)

Yes, that’s mean, but he’s South African.

He and his whole family were supposed to go down with ‘The Africa Queen’…

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/159 "2025-03-20T16:47:11Z")

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I was stuck warching FAUX News at a breakfest spot. They are hitting the “Flaming Tesla” attacks by ‘evil libs’ meme on continuous replay.

Do not do this I say to all those in opposition to the Ketimine Kid. Let the police/Nazis catch some white/right wingnuts cosplaying as terrorists.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cybertrucks-falling-apart/1014780/160 "2025-03-20T18:04:16Z")

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[Tesla admits glued-on panels are falling off Cybertrucks](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/03/20/tesla-admits-glued-on-panels-are-falling-off-cybertrucks/)

> Tesla has recalled every Cybertruck it has sold in the US after admitting that the glued-on panels on the unconventional pick-up truck have been falling off…

Bet this recall can’t be done over the air.

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