# Czarcasm, a moment of your time, please? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 7, 2004, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762 "2004-04-07T15:50:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/21 "2004-04-07T21:18:12Z")
(there I go, hitting the submit button too fast) BTW, as you say, his ethics are fine (means no harm, heart in the right place, and all). You should have said he is “ideologically naive.” Or “dumb as a rock on a lot of issues.” Or “crazy as a shithouse rat but nice and acquits himself well in a fight.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/22 "2004-04-07T21:22:16Z")
I \*think \*\*\*Lib \*\*is being ironic–with him it’s sometimes hard to tell. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/23 "2004-04-07T21:36:59Z")
> [@Francesca](#): > > Oh **Lib. Lib, Lib, Lib.** Will you never learn to just _stop_? He means no harm, even though he’s ethically bereft? I’ve never heard a more backhanded compliment. I’ve no doubt you’ll say you didn’t mean it as such, but can you at least recognise how patronising it sounds? Well, I guess so, but only if you presume the worst. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/24 "2004-04-07T22:09:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Better to be pacified by empathy than motivated by heartless ambition and soulless self-interest. Piffle. The trouble all arises when the heartless and soulless become empathic to the plight of their heartless and soulless peers. Never the twain shall meet, says I! ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/25 "2004-04-07T22:19:06Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Well, I guess so, but only if you presume the worst. So then the **good** thing about saying someone is ethically bereft is…? ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/26 "2004-04-08T00:36:44Z")
…that he said he believed I was morally grounded immediately beforehand. It’s apparently supposed to take away the sting of the bitchslap if you smile when you’re in mid-swing. ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/27 "2004-04-08T00:39:48Z")
To be honest, y’all shouldn’t pile too much on **Libertarian** , though. He’s been pretty mild in comparison with the others in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/28 "2004-04-08T01:00:31Z")
I can understand where youre coming from. what would happen if they held an election and nobody came? ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/29 "2004-04-08T01:52:08Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > This is becoming the give **Ol** a virtual BJ thread :eek: 😛 :o 🆒 Blow jobs? Puts down KY, walks away sadly… ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/30 "2004-04-08T01:56:47Z")
> [@Francesca](#): > > I’ve never heard a more backhanded compliment. [You gotta get around more, sister.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4727114&postcount=202) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/31 "2004-04-08T02:07:45Z")
> [@Francesca](#): > > I’ve never heard a more backhanded compliment. That, I believe, is what set **Olentzero** off. Right at the end of the thread he got a slew of that sort of compliment. One may not agree with his politics, but the term (for example) “batshit insane” should probably be reserved for those who are actually batshit insane. Nowhere in that thread did he demonstrate that he is. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/32 "2004-04-08T02:26:32Z")
While I’m not a mod, and I’m certainly not **Czarcasm** , maybe he figured it was turning into a pitting? Your OP was primarily criticism of Nader, and then the next post in was **friedo** saying “Ralph Nader is an idiot”. Then, the sixth post in, **Bookbuster** said, > [@](#): > > I hate Kerry, I hope he dies. If the Democrats are losing their far left wing, maybe they should stop sucking corporate cock and dropping bombs, and above all, stop blaming the guy who happens to step in with a sane political philosophy. If there wasn’t room for Nader, he wouldn’t be there. So, maybe he felt that the way the thread was going, it was more of a flame thread than anything else, and belonged in the pit. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/33 "2004-04-08T02:34:33Z")
Oh man, if only he had taken the name **Chicken of Bristol** … ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/34 "2004-04-08T02:42:16Z")
I moved it to the BBQ Pit pretty much for the reasons **Captain Amazing** , and others, gave. A thread critical of a political leader during an election year tends to head in a certain direction real fast, and that direction _usually_ isn’t uphill. What did I base my decision on? Prior experience. If it is any consolation, I almost moved it to Great Debates. Oh, and **Libertarian**? I would explain my political philosophy with you, if I thought you were capable of understanding anything more complicated than simplistic jingoisms. “Liberal”, indeed. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762/35 "2004-04-08T04:11:44Z")
Thanks, **Czarcasm**. I now see where and why you made your judgement and I have no choice to agree with it. I take back the “bad call” argument - i was wrong. As for **friedo** and **bookbuster** , you absolute fuckwits, if you don’t have anything constructive to add to a thread that’s not in the Pit, _ **don’t fucking post** _. Your fucking irresponsible actions may have cost me a friendship with someone whose opinions and voice I generally respect. If you can’t hold your fucking tongues, start your own thread in the Pit and don’t hijack threads that aren’t trying to be Pit candidates in the first place. Thanks for nothing, you jackasses. I hope you pull enough shit to get banned. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-a-moment-of-your-time-please/238762.md?page=1)