# Czarcasm and dentristry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [March 7, 2010, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571 "2010-03-07T01:28:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
**Page:** 2

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/21 "2010-03-07T12:18:42Z")

</div>

> [@Sapo](#):
>
> Didn’t they even give it a name (a la “winter of lost content”), something like “the displeasure” or something else equally vague and ridiculous?

Twickster did at one point. I think she called it “The Unpleasantness.”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/22 "2010-03-07T12:50:16Z")

</div>

I thought “The Unpleasantness” referred to the Tuba Diva kerfuffle.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/23 "2010-03-07T13:10:43Z")

</div>

> [@BigT](#):
>
> Twickster did at one point. I think she called it “The Unpleasantness.”

“The Recent Unpleasantness,” actually. Since it’s been doggone close to a year (and, hm, the Dope seems to have survived), I guess we can drop the “recent,” though.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/24 "2010-03-07T13:21:36Z")

</div>

I vote for “The Spring of Found Discontent”

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/25 "2010-03-07T18:36:45Z")

</div>

> [@Sapo](#):
>
> I vote for “The Spring of Found Discontent”

::raises hand::  
Ooooh! Ooooh! Make it a poll. I’ll vote for this one! 😉

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/26 "2010-03-08T00:50:30Z")

</div>

> [@Lobsang](#):
>
> I have crooked top-front teeth and missing rear teeth, but I brush them vigorously every day.

How much brushing do those missing teeth need? 😃

> [@Sapo](#):
>
> Didn’t they even give it a name (a la “winter of lost content”), something like “the displeasure” or something else equally vague and ridiculous?

“Winter of Our Missed Content” was one of **widdershins** ’ ideas. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=1942494](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=1942494)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/27 "2010-03-08T04:07:14Z")

</div>

Now I’m all confused. Here I was going to report this post for an insult in ATMB, only to find out it was posted in BBQ Pit to begin with.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/28 "2010-03-08T05:10:45Z")

</div>

> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
>
> To be honest, "bunghole"is one of those strange words that seems to capture the imagination.
> 
> “BUNGhole”, “BungHOLE”, “Bu’ngholé”
> 
> Hmmm.

Do you need TP for it?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/29 "2010-03-15T15:28:36Z")

</div>

“British” is a race now? Is anything \*not \*a race?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/30 "2010-03-15T15:37:57Z")

</div>

> [@Contrapuntal](#):
>
> “British” is a race now? Is anything \*not \*a race?

The United States presidential election of 1984.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/31 "2010-03-16T00:16:55Z")

</div>

> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
>
> To be honest, "bunghole"is one of those strange words that seems to capture the imagination.
> 
> “BUNGhole”, “BungHOLE”, “Bu’ngholé”
> 
> Hmmm.

Which is exactly why I use that word as my username on a Bengals fan messageboard. It just…_resonates_, somehow…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/32 "2010-03-16T00:42:21Z")

</div>

> [@Contrapuntal](#):
>
> “British” is a race now? Is anything \*not \*a race?

Asked and answered in the linked thread.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/33 "2010-03-16T14:56:14Z")

</div>

> [@Mangetout](#):
>
> Asked and answered in the linked thread.

Both questions were answered?

How can it be a racist comment if it is not referring to a race?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/34 "2010-03-16T15:04:31Z")

</div>

I looked and it wasn’t answered in the thread.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/35 "2010-03-16T15:19:55Z")

</div>

> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
>
> I looked and it wasn’t answered in the thread.

I’m assuming he meant [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12196960&postcount=41).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/36 "2010-03-16T18:31:02Z")

</div>

That kinda sorta begs the question. I mean, how can a comment be racist if it is not about race? 😕

The issue is that the word “racist” is applied in a lot of cases that aren’t directly about race, but are about some group identity bias. It bleeds into the ambiguity over what is “ethnicity”.

Is a bad stereotype about British people _racism_, or some other form of similar bigotry that doesn’t have a popularly recognized word?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/37 "2010-03-16T20:14:58Z")

</div>

> [@Contrapuntal](#):
>
> Both questions were answered?
> 
> How can it be a racist comment if it is not referring to a race?

I’m wondering this too.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571/38 "2010-03-16T22:00:56Z")

</div>

> [@Irishman](#):
>
> That kinda sorta begs the question. I mean, how can a comment be racist if it is not about race? 😕
> 
> The issue is that the word “racist” is applied in a lot of cases that aren’t directly about race, but are about some group identity bias. It bleeds into the ambiguity over what is “ethnicity”.
> 
> Is a bad stereotype about British people _racism_, or some other form of similar bigotry that doesn’t have a popularly recognized word?

Why won’t “bigotry” work? Why couldn’t he have simply said “That’s a bigoted thing to say”?

If the definition of racism has become so fuzzy that it includes “citizens of Great Britain,” then any claim of racism is necessarily equally fuzzy. It weakens the word and the concept if just any arbitrary group of people is included. Beyond meaningful use, in my opinion.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-and-dentristry/531571.md?page=1)
