# Czarcasm, I'd like to continue this conversation... **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 23, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553 "2010-03-23T23:49:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/1 "2010-03-23T23:49:57Z")
And since you are apparently unwilling to provide a substantive answer via PM, I’ll just reprise our exchange here: > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Oakminster > Czarcasm, > > You barked at me in the Coup d’etat thread in GD for the “level and tone” of this post: > > Originally Posted by Oakminster View Post > \*Right. Just like I pointed out in post#2. Anybody to the right of John Lennon is EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVUUUUULLLLLLL. No lefty anywhere has ever done or said anything close to being wrong. Even when eeeeeeeevvvvuuuuullll persons to the right of Lennon claim that a lefty did something wrong, it wasn’t really wrong and doesn’t matter. Because people to the right of Lennon are eeeeeeevvvvvuuuuuulllll. > > Now gimme a drumstick off that baby. Yum-yum.\* > > **Would you a Moderator to move this to whatever thread you meant to post this in(perhaps it was in The BBQ Pit, considering the level and tone), because you don’t seem to be responding to anything even remotely said in this one.** > > (your part bolded.) > > Yet, you said nothing to Der Trihs for his post in the celebrating liberals thread, at the time in IMHO: > > Der Trihs Der Trihs is online now > Member > > Join Date: Aug 2005 > Location: California > Posts: 17,522 > _It’s a watered down bill that is mostly a way to prop up the insurance companies at the expense of the general population. **And it sucks up to the anti-abortion scum; they might as well have included a tax break for NAMBLA or the KKK.** My feelings are “meh” at best. Perhaps it will do some good; but if this is the best that can happen when the Democrats hold all the cards I see no reason to expect it to be any stepping stone to anything better. I feel that ruadh has a point; it may well be too little, too late to actually stop the worsening of the American health care system, and when it fails to do enough I expect the Republicans will try to us that as an excuse to eliminate reform altogether for another generation._ > > (Inflammatory portion bolded.) > > GD is a considerably more “rough and tumble” forum than IMHO. If my post in GD was anywhere close to being inappropriate in “level and tone” for that forum, how is Der Trihs equating everyone that opposes abortion with NAMBLA and the KKK not also inappropriate in “level and tone” for IMHO? Why did you not offer to move his post to the pit as you did mine? This seems unfair. You replied thusly: > [@](#): > > Have you tried hitting the “Report Post to Moderator” button? To which I responded: > [@](#): > > Actually, yes, I reported that post last night. Can I have an answer to my questions, please? Said reply being sent about 4 hours ago, during which time you have made several posts to different threads, so clearly you were aware of the inquiry. Now we have two issues to discuss: 1: Would you please provide a substantive response to the questions I raised in my initial PM? 1. Do you think it is appropriate for a moderator to respond to a polite inquiry in this manner, ignore the fact that the post was reported long before the PM was sent, and then refuse to respond at all on the merits of the questions I raised? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/2 "2010-03-24T00:11:16Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > 1. Do you think it is appropriate for a moderator to respond to a polite inquiry in this manner, ignore the fact that the post was reported long before the PM was sent, and then refuse to respond at all on the merits of the questions I raised? Cue a glorious choir of modes and all the company of their hangers-on singing “It’s a Hard Knock Life” in 5…4…3… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/3 "2010-03-24T00:17:21Z")
Excuse me for having a life-I was at work, and managed to do a few spot checks during a break. May I have your permission to do some laundry and grab a bite to eat before I take a looksee at whatever problem it is that needs your immediate attention? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/4 "2010-03-24T00:19:07Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Cue a glorious choir of modes and all the company of their hangers-on singing “It’s a Hard Knock Life” in 5…4…3… By the way, **Kimmy** , your “Look at me, I’m angry toooooo!” missives are getting a little tired. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/5 "2010-03-24T00:19:32Z")
♫♪ Instead of getting treated, We get tricked. Instead of getting kisses, We get kicks! ♪♫ ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/6 "2010-03-24T00:22:26Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Excuse me for having a life-I was at work, and managed to do a few spot checks during a break. > May I have your permission to do some laundry and grab a bite to eat before I take a looksee at whatever problem it is that needs your immediate attention? May I please have a reasonable response/explanation? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/7 "2010-03-24T00:23:49Z")
Last time I looked, GD and IMHO were entirely different forums with entirely different tones and entirely different expectations of posters. I could, I suppose, not be caught up on the news. Cue the offenderati in 5…4…3… Oh, too late. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/8 "2010-03-24T00:31:56Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Last time I looked, GD and IMHO were entirely different forums with entirely different tones and entirely different expectations of posters. I could, I suppose, not be caught up on the news. This is part of my point. If anything, GD allows for harsher discussion than IMHO does. I mocked **D-T** ’s post with vigor, violating no rules of that forum, drawing **Czarcasm** ’s modly intervention. I then reported a similarly harsh post in a milder forum, and no action was taken other than moving the thread to GD. I then contacted the mod involved privately and politely, to request an explanation. Said explanation was that I should have reported the offending post, which leaves me confused, as I’d already done that, and Czarcasm, as a moderator of IMHO, would have access to that report. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/9 "2010-03-24T00:34:11Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Last time I looked, GD and IMHO were entirely different forums with entirely different tones and entirely different expectations of posters. I could, I suppose, not be caught up on the news. > > Cue the offenderati in 5…4…3… Oh, too late. Could be! I do remember your “I’m quitting the Boards!” [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11660452&postcount=1)! So I know you weren’t around for a while. Anyhoo, you were saying about the “offenderati”…? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/10 "2010-03-24T00:34:40Z")
I see the problem here. In my initial response to your post, you mistook my snarky comment about your silly overreaction as some sort of Moderator action. It wasn’t. Okey dokey? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/11 "2010-03-24T00:45:15Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > This is part of my point. If anything, GD allows for harsher discussion than IMHO does. I mocked **D-T** ’s post with vigor, violating no rules of that forum, drawing **Czarcasm** ’s modly intervention. I then reported a similarly harsh post in a milder forum, and no action was taken other than moving the thread to GD. I then contacted the mod involved privately and politely, to request an explanation. Said explanation was that I should have reported the offending post, which leaves me confused, as I’d already done that, and Czarcasm, as a moderator of IMHO, would have access to that report. Sheezus, Oakminster. What’s your problem? You’ve been here long enough to realize that the rules don’t apply to _Der Trihs_. He can get away with the type of hateful content-free vitriol you cite—and much worse—because, well…well, just BECAUSE. Because that’s what he does all the time maybe. There was a thread exploring this unfortunate phenomenon a month or so ago. Of course the mods immediately saw the error of their ways, apologized to everyone, and Warned Der Trihs. So, I’m shocked to hear something like this happened again. SHOCKED, I tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/12 "2010-03-24T00:45:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I see the problem here. In my initial response to your post, you mistook my snarky comment about your silly overreaction as some sort of Moderator action. > It wasn’t. > > Okey dokey? So despite your use of term moderator, you being a moderator, and offering to move my post, which is something only a mod or admin can do, you were not actually moderating? OK. Why then, didn’t you choose to “not-moderate” **D-T** in equal snarkitude, for similar hyperbole in IMHO? Why did you respond to my PM with “report the post”, when I’d already done so? Why are you so hostile when approached reasonably and politely with legitimate questions? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/13 "2010-03-24T00:47:23Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > May I please have a reasonable response/explanation? No, you may not. While a response may or may not come(People who say “Jump!” at me tend to be disappointed at my reaction-fancy that), whether or not it is “reasonable” will not be decided by _you_. I’m not ignorant enough to fall for that little trap, where I give you an answer, you deem it “not responsible” and then claim I broke some sort of implied promise. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/14 "2010-03-24T00:48:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No, you may not. While a response may or may not come(People who say “Jump!” at me tend to be disappointed at my reaction-fancy that), whether or not it is “reasonable” will not be decided by _you_. I’m not ignorant enough to fall for that little trap, where I give you an answer, you deem it “not responsible” and then claim I broke some sort of implied promise. Ummmm…huh? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/15 "2010-03-24T00:49:51Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > I do remember your “I’m quitting the Boards!” [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11660452&postcount=1)! _shrug_ **Oakminster** came back; **Frank** came back. Isn’t it a wonderful world? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/16 "2010-03-24T00:50:27Z")
And since this is turning into yet another back-door “Evil Der Trihs” thread(Who didn’t see _that_ one coming, folks!), I’m going to bow out and let y’all have at it. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/17 "2010-03-24T00:52:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And since this is turning into yet another back-door “Evil Der Trihs” thread(Who didn’t see _that_ one coming, folks!), I’m going to bow out and let y’all have at it. I’d very much like answers to my questions. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/18 "2010-03-24T01:14:25Z")
All ribbing aside, **Czarcasm** , I don’t get why you’re so intent on not giving **Oakminster** a proper answer. It’s coming off as quite odd and not what I’d expect from you. Maybe you two have some history, though… ::shrug:: ---
**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/19 "2010-03-24T01:26:43Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > May I please have a reasonable response/explanation? Listen, you little wiseacre: I’m smart; you’re dumb; I’m big, you’re little; I’m right, you’re wrong, and there’s nothing you can do about it. \ ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553/20 "2010-03-24T01:34:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > All ribbing aside, **Czarcasm** , I don’t get why you’re so intent on not giving **Oakminster** a proper answer. It’s coming off as quite odd and not what I’d expect from you. Maybe you two have some history, though… > > ::shrug:: Does it have to be proper, reasonable, or both, and who gets to decide these vital matters, hmm? **Oakminster**? **magellan01**? **Czarcasm**? An impartial third party? What a dilemma! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-id-like-to-continue-this-conversation/533553.md?page=2)