# Czarcasm, why was this thread moved?

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**Created:** [August 11, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313 "2011-08-11T05:56:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/21 "2011-08-11T20:56:55Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Is that sufficient for you?

I’m pretty sure it won’t be The OP seems to be particularly…touchy about moderation of this board in general, and, if I remember correctly, against **Czarcasm** in particular.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/22 "2011-08-11T21:11:05Z")

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Thank the gods there wasn’t a poll in that thread.

Seriously, though, I too don’t see the problem with heated discussion in IMHO.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/23 "2011-08-11T23:32:57Z")

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I’m the mod referred to above who participated in an alcoholism thread as both a poster and a mod, though in completely separate posts. This led to an enormous uproar at that time, and I have recused myself from \*all \*alcoholism threads since then.

That said – generally the alcoholism threads end up being a referendum on AA, and the ensuing vociferous criticism of AA is generally based on the fact that it is a spiritually based fellowship. Supporters thus end up involved in what can fairly be described as “religious debates” and “witnessing,” making it GD-worthy. In addition, I would argue that those who have dealt with alcoholism, their own or that of their loved ones, regardless of their feelings about AA, would object to dismissing it as a “less than cosmic” issue.

I have not discussed this particular thread with **Czarcasm** , but it has been general board policy for a while now to move alcoholism threads to GD for these reasons – this is not some idiosyncratic or policy-setting move on his part.

Please note that I am not talking about my own opinions on any of the issues around AA or alcoholism here, merely describing the general mod policy that provides what I understand to be the context of the thread move.

**twickster** , moderator of neither IMHO nor GD

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/24 "2011-08-12T01:30:45Z")

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To me, the huge difference between GD and IMHO is the appropriateness of anecdotal evidence: in GD it’s almost threadshitting: it’s a hijack, because people aren’t there to discuss any one person’s life, they want to discuss the bigger issue. In IMHO anecdotal evidence is considered a valid contribution to a thread.

The OP in this thread seemed to want anecdotes.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/25 "2011-08-12T02:31:01Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Seriously, though, I too don’t see the problem with heated discussion in IMHO.

Nor do I. It seems the place is run by nuns who are afraid people might have a little fun if they’re not careful. Quoth **Darth Panda** : _frank exchanges of views seems to be code for stfu lately._ Yep. Seriously, it’s a message board let folks message.

At least ease up on the reins.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/26 "2011-08-12T14:03:45Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> To me, the huge difference between GD and IMHO is the appropriateness of anecdotal evidence: in GD it’s almost threadshitting: it’s a hijack, because people aren’t there to discuss any one person’s life, they want to discuss the bigger issue. In IMHO anecdotal evidence is considered a valid contribution to a thread.

That’s not true - lots of religious threads are nothing but invitations for personal anecdotes - all the ones that start “Believers, why do you…” or “Atheists, for what reasons do you…” etc. And witnessing in general is anecdotal.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/27 "2011-08-12T16:02:22Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> I’m the mod referred to above who participated in an alcoholism thread as both a poster and a mod, though in completely separate posts.

Oh, that’s what **BigT** is referring to. I agree with your description of the factors that lead alcoholism to GD.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/28 "2011-08-12T16:19:38Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Oh, that’s what **BigT** is referring to. I agree with your description of the factors that lead alcoholism to GD.

In my experience, Great Debates probably leads to alcoholism.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/29 "2011-08-12T17:29:02Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> In my experience, Great Debates probably leads to alcoholism.

~snerk~

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasm-why-was-this-thread-moved/592313/30 "2011-08-12T21:54:05Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> In my experience, Great Debates probably leads to alcoholism.

It’s certainly more enjoyable after a few cans of strong Polish lager.

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