# Czarcasm's Junior Modding in ATMB

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174>\
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**Created:** [September 28, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174 "2012-09-28T19:12:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/41 "2012-09-30T20:34:58Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
>
> Okay, since I didn’t want to keep detailing the thread on the latest suspension, I wanted to repost here the question I posed there…  
> “Amazingly, in my decade here, I’ve barely posted in a handful of threads about what TPTB do here. Very seldom has my opinion been one of criticism. However, it is impossible to ignore **Czarcasm** ’s junior modding. It’s noted in a ton of ATMB threads and is complained about left and right. If no one is actually going to address that based off of his past history, then what is the recourse for us members? Would you all suggest we report his posts every time we see him do this? If so, can we take it a step further and say that we’ve done so in the thread, thus perhaps encouraging others to do the same? Maybe then, do to sheer volume, TPTB would finally be compelled to apply the same rules for him that they do for everyone else.”
> 
> There was at least one mod in that thread before and after I posted this and I got nary a reply. Perhaps it got lost in the shuffle or was considered off-topic, but if someone up the food chain can help me with this, I’d appreciate it. Thanks.

From the other thread, CarnalK replies:

> [@Mhendo's suspension](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mhendos-suspension/636142/21):
>
> Czarcasm doesn’t really junior mod. He just quietly implies people are childish over-reacting dunces for disagreeing with the real mods. No rule against that!

I go further. There is no junior modding going on. There is nothing remotely jerky about Czarcasm’s behavior. He consistently defends the Mod’s decisions: so what?

What’s really going on is that most critics of the mods here are thin-skinned hyper-sensitive snowflakes. (I bet you didn’t know that snowflakes had skins.) Mods respond by _defending_ their actions. Czarcasm poses the calm and reasonable question: “What’s your problem?” At this point TWTB (The Whiners That Be) totally freak out.

Get a grip. There’s no junior modding going on. Implications to the contrary are delusional. If you can’t come up with a non-laughable example, you should at least consider the possibility that you are wrong.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/42 "2012-09-30T21:43:40Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> But can’t quite point to an actual example?

> [@How To Apologise Effectively](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/17):
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> It took less than 7 seconds to find [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=590441&highlight=sound), in which Ed responds directly to the problem. Now, maybe you _personally_ didn’t get a response but then again as you pointed out this was never _your_ problem to begin with.

> [@How To Apologise Effectively](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/21):
>
> 1. My post showed that the problem was being addressed and that there is an honest attempt to solve it. It has been acknowledged more than once that this is an ongoing problem, and The Powers That Be have asked for the posters cooperation in isolating which ads are the trouble makers. Nothing is being hidden or ignored, as far as i can tell.
> 2. Ask away, but I’m not much for jumping through hoops on demand, especially for someone who seems to be posting for recreational outrage.

> [@Ban Floater. Or at least action him.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ban-floater-or-at-least-action-him/602625/20):
>
> Since the Moderator that you are attempting to question is currently off-line, repeated requests for answers from her might not be productive. Also,since she might not be in the habit of doing vanity checks to see if anyone is talking about her every decision, you might want to send an IM.

> [@Why wasn't the thread moved?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/11):
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> And the reason they were incapable of addressing those concerns in a separate BBQ Pit thread, as they were directed to do so, was…?

> [@Yay, we've been saved from ourselves again!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/yay-weve-been-saved-from-ourselves-again/621013/17):
>
> The OP removed any content or meaning of the thread when he posted nothing more than “Nevermind”. Threads with no content or meaning get closed. That what it says in the rules you agreed to.

> [@Jeez, can't we just save ourselves some trouble and just Ban Hitler apologists/deniers?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jeez-cant-we-just-save-ourselves-some-trouble-and-just-ban-hitler-apologists-deniers/621238/27):
>
> They pretty much always get banned. They way we do it now is that they first get a chance to get their message out to a wider audience and their pet website gets a few mentions, _then_ they get banned.

> [@About Lies and Liars](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/2):
>
> Did you report the incident to the moderators?

> [@No Avatars Here? Why?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-avatars-here-why/625626/351):
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> I never said I was, and if you _actually_ feel that I am presenting myself in such a way why don’t you quit whining about it and report me?

> [@No Avatars Here? Why?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-avatars-here-why/625626/356):
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> My personal position is that:
> 
> 1. It would be more work for the moderators, and
> 2. It’s the house rules that I agreed to, and I don’t find this rule to be anywhere near unbearable or oppressive.

> [@No Avatars Here? Why?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-avatars-here-why/625626/160):
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> Let me guess-this is an oh so subtle way of accusing me of junior modding, isn’t it? How quaint.  
> Is there a reason **Crazyhorse’s** answer to the problem isn’t satisfactory?

> [@Twixter, a question about your mod note in the joke thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twixter-a-question-about-your-mod-note-in-the-joke-thread/629228/25):
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> Did you report them, and were you told not to do so anymore?

> [@Ok, I'll do it (Twickster thread closing thread closed)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ill-do-it-twickster-thread-closing-thread-closed/621963/141):
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> Actually, I believe you were mod-noted(no warning issued, though) for
> 
> 1. Saying “fuck you” to a poster in the BBQ Pit, and
> 2. Criticizing the actions of a moderator in The BBQ Pit instead of ATMB.

> [@Comments about "The Great Debates"](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/comments-about-the-great-debates/610959/17):
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> I’ve said this a few times before to people that have tried the same argument: The last time I checked, the words under THE STRAIGHT DOPE banner at the top of the page didn’t read “Whatever dude-it’s all cool”.

> [@Why wasn't the thread moved?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-wasnt-the-thread-moved/610137/11):
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> And the reason they were incapable of addressing those concerns in a separate BBQ Pit thread, as they were directed to do so, was…?

> [@No visitor walls?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-visitor-walls/605112/20):
>
> This, and(speaking as an ex-mod) the staff are already kept pretty damn busy with the board as it is now set up.

> [@Ok, I'll do it (Twickster thread closing thread closed)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ok-ill-do-it-twickster-thread-closing-thread-closed/621963/143):
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> And I just wanted to note that you weren’t mod-noted for the specific reason you gave.

> [@God Damn It Twickster!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/god-damn-it-twickster/622025/11):
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> Once again, this is the wrong thread let alone wrong forum, for that conversation.

> [@No Avatars Here? Why?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/no-avatars-here-why/625626/351):
>
> I never said I was, and if you _actually_ feel that I am presenting myself in such a way why don’t you quit whining about it and report me?

> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/629706/122):
>
> I never speak for the administration, and this continuous whining and insinuating that I am “junior modding” when I _dare_ to give an opinion that supports the board is rather monotonous and it isn’t going to intimidate me into keeping quiet. If you want to accuse me of “junior modding”, why not just report it?

> [@Czrcasm](#):
>
> [Not junior modding](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14518635&postcount=30)-just my personal opinion. Whatever.  
> A mistake was made, picunurse, and an apology without expectation of forgiveness was publicly made. What say you?

Do any of those give merit to the OP’s claim\*?

\*all taken after he quit his mod position. More where they came from.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/43 "2012-09-30T22:10:50Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Do any of those give merit to the OP’s claim\*?
> 
> \*all taken after he quit his mod position. More where they came from.

Not really.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/44 "2012-09-30T22:21:45Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Do any of those give merit to the OP’s claim\*?
> 
> \*all taken after he quit his mod position. More where they came from.

No, they really don’t, no matter how much you wish they did.

If comments such as those you listed were against any rules then no poster could answer a question or offer their opinions in ATMB.

Hell, **Irishman** would be banned immediately if that were the standard.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/45 "2012-09-30T22:32:46Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Leaving aside examples of junior modding for the moment,

Why? That was the whole point of the thread. Since I see repeated claims that he junior mods frequently, I would llike to see an example of that behavior.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> . . . we’ve show actual examples of personal insult: that ‘pot’ remark. Perhaps you would care to explain why he didn’t get a Warning for that.

I don’t know. I did not see it when it was posted and I do not know which staff members, if any, did see it. I do not issue Warnings days (or weeks) after an event. Did you report it?

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> And there are many other examples of similar misbehaviour, where he gets away with stuff that would get anyone else Warned.

And you can point/link to (m)any other examples?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/46 "2012-09-30T22:45:22Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> Do any of those give merit to the OP’s claim\*?
> 
> \*all taken after he quit his mod position. More where they came from.

Not really.

I see a poster challenging other posters regarding questions of behavior in the way that the posters he addressed were challenging the behavior of the staff or other posters. I did not see him order another poster to change their behavior.

How are you defining “junior modding”?

Now, I would acknowledge that any number of Czarcasm’s posts in this forum are presented in a manner that ranges from defensive to hostile, but I have only seen one example of a rules violation despite repeated claims that he habitually violates the rules and I have still not seen an example of junior modding.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/47 "2012-09-30T23:13:55Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Not really…

OK.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/48 "2012-10-01T01:09:56Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> And you can point/link to (m)any other examples?

Plenty, but what would be the point of listing them? You’d just dodge them, as you did with the pot thing. If you actually bother to answer that, then there might be some point in listing his other misbehaviour.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/49 "2012-10-01T01:45:55Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Plenty, but what would be the point of listing them? You’d just dodge them, as you did with the pot thing. If you actually bother to answer that, then there might be some point in listing his other misbehaviour.

> [@tomndebb](#):
>
> I don’t know. I did not see it when it was posted and I do not know which staff members, if any, did see it. I do not issue Warnings days (or weeks) after an event. Did you report it?

That seems like an answer to me. He didn’t see it. He’s not sure whether there was even a report. And the water is way under the bridge. IMO, **Peter Morris** ’ characterization is inaccurate.

My take is that if it’s an insult, it’s a pretty odd one. Calling somebody as “Pot” (as in Kettle-black) seems to me like saying: “Hey you’re just like me!” Of course context (and repetition) is all. In the event, I read it more like a quip. I doubt whether it would merit notice if some posters weren’t flustered up by Czarcasm’s entirely reasonable commentary.

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**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/50 "2012-10-01T03:03:00Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Now, I would acknowledge that any number of Czarcasm’s posts in this forum are presented in a manner that ranges from defensive to hostile, but I have only seen one example of a rules violation despite repeated claims that he habitually violates the rules and I have still not seen an example of junior modding.

WTF?  
The guy is often hostile but never a jerk?  
Long term membership and volunteer service have their perks I guess.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/51 "2012-10-01T03:19:10Z")

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It seems to me that any post starting with “WTF?” is pretty hostile. I would not question **Hbns** ’s posting privileges though.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/52 "2012-10-01T03:30:33Z")

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> [@Hbns](#):
>
> WTF?  
> The guy is often hostile but never a jerk?  
> Long term membership and volunteer service have their perks I guess.

I would say that the majority of posters who have complained about Czarcasm’s behavior and treatment, in this thread, have been hostile. There have been rather few posts that were completely free of sarcasm or snide remarks. (Certainly your “perks” comment qualifies, there.) What sanctions do you suggest for those posters? What is your explicit definition that provides a bright line demarcation of “being a jerk,” to distinguish the “good hostile” posts from the “bad hostile” posts?

The thread was opened to complain about junior modding–a point that no one has succeeded in substantiating. Now it seems to have fallen into a series of claims that when people attack the staff, Czarcasm responds to them in kind.  
I would appreciate Czarcasm backing off on some of his responses, simply to reduce the number of complaints about him, but I have never been impressed by the “_he hit me back first_” defense being offered to challenge his right to post an opinion.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/53 "2012-10-01T03:32:27Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Plenty, but what would be the point of listing them? You’d just dodge them, as you did with the pot thing.

Just as you have dodged providing a single example of Czarcasm junior modding.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/54 "2012-10-01T03:41:18Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Just as you have dodged providing a single example of Czarcasm junior modding.

I never claimed it in the first place. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/55 "2012-10-01T04:21:09Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I never claimed it in the first place. :rolleyes:

So, you’re just threadshitting by posting irrelevant questions and comments in a thread on a topic that you will not discuss?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/56 "2012-10-01T04:43:11Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> That seems like an answer to me. He didn’t see it. He’s not sure whether there was even a report.

I don’t buy it.

Tom is a mod. Mods read ATMB threads complaining about Mod actions.

I’m sure that he would have read the [Diamonds02](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15535476#post15535476)thread.

He may not have noticed the pot remark, but surely he would have seen the discussion that followed, starting in post #74-#81 and several other posts. And yes, clearly the insult WAS reported.

He would also have read the [mhendo](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=667029)thread. And he would have seen a whole load of discussion about it in that thread.  
And if he really didn’t read those threads, then he was negligent. He certainly should have done.

> [@](#):
>
> And the water is way under the bridge.

Not a valid excuse, IMHO. So, the violation occurred several days ago, and the mods didn’t act upon it. And now, Tom refuses to act simply because several days have passed. It doesn’t excuse the lack of moderator action at the time.

> [@](#):
>
> IMO, **Peter Morris** ’ characterization is inaccurate.
> 
> My take is that if it’s an insult, it’s a pretty odd one. Calling somebody as “Pot” (as in Kettle-black) seems to me like saying: “Hey you’re just like me!” Of course context (and repetition) is all.

Exactly. The context is that it was in response to something that was ruled as a personal insult. Thus the ‘pot’ response, equivalent to saying the same thing right back at him, is also a personal insult.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/57 "2012-10-01T04:49:08Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> So, you’re just threadshitting by posting irrelevant questions and comments in a thread on a topic that you will not discuss?

Not at all. I’m posting relevent questions about Czarcasm’s misbehaviour. That is in no way threadshitting.

Now, will you please answer the question. Right here, right now, you have been told about Czarcasm making personal insults against another poster. Are you going to do anything about it?

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**Author:** ![Krav\_Manga](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/krav_manga/32/3153_2.png) [@Krav\_Manga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krav_Manga)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/58 "2012-10-01T05:00:12Z")

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I reported it, and I made a comment in the original thread.

Ultimately, twickster provided a dismissive response that there was no personal insult, and then waved it away as ‘water under the bridge’.

Cites:

Original post referring to my reporting : [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15535977&postcount=74](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15535977&postcount=74)

Where I refer to the post again : [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538104&postcount=87](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538104&postcount=87)

Responding to twickster’s alleged response : [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538162&postcount=90](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538162&postcount=90)

When I raised the issue in this thread : [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538628&postcount=25](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538628&postcount=25)

Where I attempt to break it down for trickster: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538832&postcount=96](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15538832&postcount=96)

Where twickster waves it away: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15539535&postcount=102](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15539535&postcount=102)

Please note that many other posters also asked for an answer to this issue, without success.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/59 "2012-10-01T10:19:01Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I don’t buy it.

Of course, not.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Tom is a mod. Mods read ATMB threads complaining about Mod actions.

Not necessarily true. If it does not appear to be a thread about an action that I took or failed to take, why would I read it? If the complaint is in regards to the actions of some other Mod, I will generally only read it if it appears to be something that is not resolved AND that looks to be an issue of general interest, as opposed to an issue in which I have no particular interest.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> I’m sure that he would have read the [Diamonds02](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15535476#post15535476)thread.

And you would be wrong. Diamonds02 never posts in Great Debates and I do not recall having encountered Diamonds02’s posts in any other forum. With no background knowledge of the poster and no knowledge of the event, I have had no impetus to read that thread.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> He would also have read the [mhendo](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=667029)thread. And he would have seen a whole load of discussion about it in that thread.  
> And if he really didn’t read those threads, then he was negligent. He certainly should have done.

Sorry. There is no “negligence” involved in choosing to not read threads on topics or posters with which I have no direct involvement. Mhendo has not posted in Great Debates in months. I have seen some of his posts in The BBQ Pit, but they did not attract my attention. When you pay my salary, you get to tell me what I must read. I devote sufficient time to Great Debates and I still don’t get a chance to read every post. This thread had run a couple of days before a comment in another location prompted me to open it.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Not a valid excuse, IMHO. So, the violation occurred several days ago, and the mods didn’t act upon it. And now, Tom refuses to act simply because several days have passed. It doesn’t excuse the lack of moderator action at the time.

I neither defend nor condemn that lack of moderator action at the time. It did not come to my attention and I do not know the thoughts of the staff who may have seen it beyond what has been posted in this thread. You are welcome to challenge those Mods. However, this board has never had a policy of issuing Warnings for events that have gotten old, so attacking me for not doing something long after the fact makes no sense. If you want to change that policy to promote Warnings on old events, open a new thread to discuss it. I suspect that you will not find a lot of support for such a change, but you are welcome to present it. (And, since I proposed you submit it, that thread I will read.)

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**Author:** ![Krav\_Manga](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/krav_manga/32/3153_2.png) [@Krav\_Manga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krav_Manga)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/czarcasms-junior-modding-in-atmb/636174/60 "2012-10-01T10:57:54Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Now, will you please answer the question. Right here, right now, you have been told about Czarcasm making personal insults against another poster. Are you going to do anything about it?

That’d be a no.

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